Do you belong to Other Backward Classes (OBC)? What is the OBC reservation eligibility?
Non-Creamy Layer candidates from OBC are entitled to reservations in jobs as well as educational institutions. However, many candidates (and even some bureaucrats) are ignorant about the provisions of the OBC reservation.
If you are a deserving candidate belonging to the OBC category, you should not miss the benefits of an OBC reservation (due to ignorance). In this post, we shall see the criteria for determining whether you fall under OBC Creamy Layer or OBC Non-Creamy Layer.
Other Backward Classes (OBC)
Other Backward Classes (OBC) are socially and educationally backward classes in India. OBCs are distinct from Scheduled Classes (SC) or Scheduled Tribes (ST).
The Central Government of India maintains a list of castes/communities to be considered as OBC.
Benefits of being included in the OBC list:
To uplift Other Backward Classes (OBC), both the Central Government and State Governments are running a lot of programs and schemes. Some benefits include:
- 27% Reservation Quota with respect to the seats in Government Jobs (like IAS, IPS etc) and Government institutes (like the IIMs and IITs).
- There is relaxation with respect to the upper age limit for various examinations like UPSC Civil Services Exam.
- There is relaxation with respect to the number of attempts for exams.
- There is relaxation with respect to cut-off marks (only lower cut-off marks are usually needed to clear exams).
Will all OBCs get the reservation benefit?
No.
Only if you belong to Non-Creamy Layer OBC, you will get the reservation in jobs as well as in educational institutions.
If you fall under the Creamy Layer of OBC, you will not get the benefit of an OBC reservation.
Origin of Creamy Layer concept with respect to OBC
Due to the recommendations of the Mandal Commission, the Central Government issued an Office Memorandum to reserve 27% posts in central government services. The order was challenged by Indra Sawhney (Indra Sawhney and Others Vs Government of India) in Supreme Court (1992).
The constitutional bench of the apex court upheld the decision to reserve 27% reservation for OBC’s in Central Government service. But in the verdict, Honorable Supreme Court cleared that the creamy layer among OBC’s should be excluded from the reservation.
Central Government constituted a commission chaired by Justice Ram Nandan Prasad to identify the creamy layer among OBC’s. The commission recommendations were as such approved by the Central Government.
Based on this, the Central Government issued an order regarding the guidelines and criteria for excluding Creamy Layer among OBC. The same criteria and guidelines are still in force for identifying Creamy Layer among OBC’s.
Note: There is no concept of the creamy layer with respect to SC/ST reservation.
How can you know if you get OBC Reservation?
Central Government maintains a list of castes or communities which are given OBC status. Check the Central List of OBCs – based on your state. If your caste or community is mentioned there, you can apply under OBC quota – provided you meet the Non-Creamy Layer criteria as well.
If the candidate’s community is mentioned in the above list, then the next step is to check whether he/she belongs to the creamy layer or to the non-creamy layer. You should note that reservations are offered only to candidates belonging to the OBC non-creamy layer.
Also read: Maratha Quota Law
How can you know if you belong to Creamy Layer OBC or Non-Creamy Layer OBC?
The creamy layer is based on the status of your parents.
For the jobs under the Central Government, if the parents of an applicant entered the service as Class I officer before the age of 40 (direct recruitment), the applicant is considered as a creamy layer.
Also, if both the parents of the candidates entered into service as class II officers, before the age of 40 (direct recruitment), and entered into the service before the age of 40, the applicant is considered as a creamy layer.
Who comes under Non-Creamy Layer OBC?
Except for the above children of the above-mentioned employees, almost all get the benefit of “Non-Creamy Layer” Status.
- If your parents are not directly recruited Class1 (Group A) or Class2 (GroupB) officers OR they do not occupy any constitutional posts (like that of President, Vice President, Governor etc) you are most likely to fall under Non-Creamy Layer OBC.
- If your parents are not employed by the government, their income should be within the limits by the government to be treated as Non-Creamy Layer OBC.
Income Limit of determining the Non-Creamy Layer Status of OBCs
In order to qualify as an OBC non-creamy layer candidate, the applicant’s parents’ annual income should be less than Rs. 8 lakhs.
As far as the Government employees are considered, the entry cadre/post is to be taken into consideration. Salary and agricultural income are not to be considered as income for calculating annual income for creamy layer status.
While applying the “Income/Wealth Test” to determine the creamy layer status of any candidate, income from the salaries and income from the agricultural land shall not be taken into account. It means that if income from other sources other than the salary and agriculture exceeds the income limit, then only the candidates shall be treated as Creamy Layer.
Note: When the creamy layer concept was introduced, the income limit was set at Rs 1 lakh per annum (1993). Thereafter, it was raised to Rs 2.5 lakhs p.a (2004). It was subsequently increased to Rs 4.5 lakhs p.a. in 2008 and then to Rs 6 lakhs p.a in 2013. The current limit is Rs.8 lakhs per annum.
Who is the authority to issue the OBC Non-Creamy Layer Certificate?
Usually, the Non-Creamy Layer Certificate is issued by the Tahsildar of the concerned State Government. The procedure for obtaining the Non-Creamy Layer Certificate may differ from State to State.
Please find below some useful links to application forms and certificates (proforma):
- Application Form
- Proforma 1
- Proforma 2
- Proforma 3
Will the candidate’s Income be also included while determining the family income with respect to Non-Creamy Layer status?
You may note that ”Income” here refers only to the income of the parents and not the candidate’s income.
The creamy layer status of a candidate is determined on the basis of the status of his/her parents and not on the basis of his/her own status or income or that of his/her spouse (husband or wife). Therefore, while determining the creamy layer status of a person, the status or the income of the candidate himself or of his/her spouse (husband or wife) shall not be taken into account.
In short, the candidate’s income is not considered for determining the Non-Creamy Layer Status of OBCs.
Info-bits which will be useful for you to get OBC Non-Creamy Layer Certificate
- With regarding parents under Government employment, the status of the job (Group A/B/C/D) is more important than the salary. If your parents are earning more than 8 lakhs but their rank is below that of group B officers, you will still come under the Non-Creamy Layer.
- However, regarding parents under private employment or private business, annual income is the main criterion. Nevertheless, salary and income from other sources should be considered separately.
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The main point here is to treat income from salary and income from other sources separately. Neither salary nor income from other sources should cross Rs.8 lakhs in three consecutive years.
- Check your parent’s salary for the last three consecutive years. If in any of the last 3 years it is below 8 lakhs, you are qualified for OBC Non-creamy layer status, provided income from other sources is also less than 8 lakhs.
- As per rules, group category A & B (Service Category), the son(s) and daughter(s) of Group A/Class I Officers and both the parents of Group B/Class II Officers only are excluded from availing the benefit of reservation. All other Officers i.e. if only one of the parents is a Group B/Class II Officer and all the Officers below the Category II Officers are entitled to avail the rule of reservation unless their other income other than the salaries and agricultural land exceeds the income criteria limit prescribed.
- As far as Group B/Class II Officers are concerned, if one of the parents of the children while working as Group B/Class II Officer gets into Group A/Class I Officer at the age of 40 or earlier, then also the children are not entitled to the benefit of reservation. But in case the Group B/Class II Officer gets into Group A/Class I Officer after the age of 40 years, the children are entitled to get the reservation.
- In PSUs, all executive-level posts, board-level executives and managerial-level posts are treated as equivalent to Group ‘A’ posts in the government and will be considered ‘creamy layer’.
- Junior management grade scale 1 and above of public sector banks, financial institutions and public sector insurance corporations will be treated as equivalent to group ‘A’ in the government and considered as OBC ‘creamy layer’.
- OBC reservation eligibility is entirely different from EWS reservation eligibility. Don’t mix up things. Income and Asset Certificate needed for Economically Weaker Sections (EWS) among General Category is different from the Income and Wealth certificate mandated for the Other Backward Castes (OBC) Non-Creamy Layer.
One of the best resources for any clarification regarding OBC reservation is NCBC (National Commission For Backward Classes) Website. For additional queries or concerns, refer the documents listed below:
- Government Clarifications regarding NCL
- NCBC Supplementary Report
- Persmin Report on the scope of the reservation
What is the validity of an OBC Non-Creamy Layer Certificate?
The Non-creamy Layer (NCL) Certificate would be applicable to OBC candidates who are covered under the Income/Wealth Test criterion. The income limit is decided on the basis of income earned during three previous financial years preceding the year of appointment.
To illustrate, the validity of non-creamy layer certificate issued during any month of the financial year 2016-17 covering 3 preceding financial years viz. 2013-14, 2014-15 and 2015-16 be accepted by the concerned authorities for any appointments or recruitments which would be valid during the period April 2016 to March 2017.
The appointing authorities would accept the production of a self-attested photocopy of the Non-creamy layer certificate, subject to verification of the original Non-creamy layer certificate, as is the practice being followed for verification of other original documents.
With respect to exams conducted by UPSC, the candidates are expected to possess certificates dated than the closing date of the application for the preliminary exam. For example, with respect to UPSC CSE Prelims 2019, the OBC certificate should be dated before 18th March 2019.
While the OBC status of a candidate may change only when the community of the concerned candidate is removed from the OBC list, his/her creamy layer status may change at any time. Therefore, it is not possible to determine a fixed validity period for the OBC certificate.
However, for most practical purposes, the validity of an OBC NCL Certificate is treated like 1 year. If your OBC NCL certificate was obtained before 1 year, it is always better to get a new OBC NCL before applying for exams.
Also, it is advisable to get the OBC NCL Certificate in either English (prefered) or Hindi.
What if you fall under OBC creamy layer?
Candidates who fall under OBC creamy layer (parents’ annual income more than 8 lakhs) are treated as general category students. They do not have any reservations at the Government institutions.
They can compete in general merit.
Conclusion
The purpose of OBC reservation (non-creamy layer), is to uplift the most deserving candidates among backward classes. Except for the most privileged, most of the OBC candidates usually come under Non-Creamy Layer OBC.
However, many eligible candidates are not aware of how to obtain the required certificate.
To make matters worse, corrupt and ignorant bureaucrats often deny deserving candidates the OBC non-creamy layer certificate.
By going through the provisions of the government regarding non-creamy layer criteria in detail, you can claim your deserving quota without any harassment from the authorities.
Let us know in the comments if you face any issues regarding the OBC non-creamy layer certificate. Either our team or fellow readers or aspirants will definitely help.
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Hi Sandeep, please elaborate on what you wish to know more about. For the eligibility of your community, please check the link of the Central List given above.
Thank you sir
My NCL obc had expired in last August 19 and applied for a new one on 27 oct19 and issued and got it on 30 nov19..Now, am I able to appear in interview whose Last date of submission form is 15 Nov 19 as at that time I have no new issued NCL in my hand.. authority has said that I am not eligible for the post as at the time of last date of form submission no new certificate was in my hand, though I have applied for it about 17 days prior to last date of form submission.. Kindly give your suggestions
Thank you sir
Sir my mother is obc can I also get obc certificate by showing my mother’s income
Sir I have OBC NCL certificate but I have not income certificate of past 3 years . Then what happens for upsc candidates ?
Sir…I am in a govt job and having annual income more than 10 lakh….but my parents income is NIL. Then…I am applying for UPSC. So , am I eligible for OBC certificate or not.
Sir, In this year (2021) I filed ITR of Rs 5 lakh of my Mom and Rs 5 lakh of my Dad. Before that I never filed ITR of my Mom. My caste comes under OBC list. Am I eligible for NCL category? The income is from business.
go to eseva and ask for central obc cer
Hey , I wanted to know that the salary after the reduction of tax is taken or the original salary(without tax reduction) is taken??
Bothe are gov employes teachers ten years nundi ma papaki obc certificate vastundha
Respected Sir/ Madame,
Thank you very much for your kind information and guidance regarding “OBC RESERVATION ELIGIBILITY – DO YOU COME UNDER THE NON-CREAMY LAYER?”
I request you kindly to guide me over following matters.
(a) If an employee of public sector banks, financial institutions and public sector insurance corporations which is treated as equivalent to Group ‘A’ in the Government gets promoted to Junior Management Grade Scale-1 after 40 years of his age then whether his dependent status will be OBC Non-Creamy Layer or OBC Creamy Layer.
(b) Whether salary of Junior management grade Scale – 1 and above of public sector banks, financial institutions and public sector insurance corporations which is equivalent to Group ‘A’ in the Government will be taken into account for consideration of his dependent’s OBC Non-Creamy Layer or OBC Creamy Layer status.
I will be very much grateful to you for this act of guidance.
With Regards
Uday
Sir my fathers is a teacher whose income is above 8 lakh in 2 years and in one year it is less than 8 lakh
Can i get obc certificate
Thank you for giving information regarding this non creamy layer…. I belonged to telangana state I m bc-e Muslim minority I come under shaik..and while I m applying for non creamy layer certificate they said that this state certificate will be not valid for central jobs as obc candidate I asked them to apply prleims I want non creamy layer but they said there is no obc Muslim minorities mentioned in cemtral level they said if I want to apply now would I come under obc and how to apply for noncreamy layer obc certificate for central jobs…
Same question here I am a Muslim minority bc e shaikh I fall under NcBc
center listt of State Telangana obc non creamy layer I have caste certificate provided by Andhra Pradesh
( Telangana not formed then ) now when I apply for center exams they are asking me center provided obc non creamy layer certificate and not by state what should I do please tell me
Sir
Kindly let me know, my NCL obc is expired on August 2019. I have applied for renew on oct2019 and after about 1month they have issued the certificates, I,e on 30 nov19..now the question is, am I eligible for NCL obc post for a interview whose last date of submission of documents is 15 nov19… as I have got my issued certificate after 15 days of last date though I have applied for it about 1 month back..
I am a class B officer at till 34 years and became class A officer 34 years 10 months of old basic pay .
Whether my children are eligible for OBC certificate.
If Sir employ income more than 8 lakh and what is eligible to get benefit of OBC reservation in direct selection for Higher post.
Sir my father is a class 111 government employee and my mother is house wife. Our family annual income from all sources is 864000 (gross salary is 844000 and from other sources is 20000) am I eligible for OBC NCL or not?
क्या डिग्री कॉलेज के एसोसिएट प्रोफेसर के बच्चों को नॉन क्रीमी लेयर का लाभ मिलेगा
Thank you sir worth guidance 🙏
Most of the certificate issuing authorities are unaware about these eligibilities of creamy layer
@ Ab Rashid – You are right. Unfortunately, many officers are not aware of the detailed provisions. However, if you give a copy of the above rules (see PDFs mentioned above), they will give you the Non-Creamy Layer certificate.
I like to apply University vacancy. There is mentioned of age relaxation of OBC 3 year and Government job 5 years. Can I get age relaxation of OBC and government Service quota both or only one?
is jaiswal belong to obc
Sir iam working a. P prison dept as a head constbl my salary crass 8 lakh recently my son eligible non cremylayer
This article says income from salary and agriculture land ia not considered for creamy layer exclusion. Is this applicable for private job holding parents as well?if someone is working in corporate companies and earning high salary, will his kids be eligible for nin creamy certificate?
I am a Assistant Teacher of government aided school in west Bengal I am OBC and my sub caste is Tanti . My salary cross Rs. 8 lakh. Can my daughter get non creme layer certificate ?
Sir my onc certificate was issued dated on 2014 and it also mentions in the same page that i belong to non creamy layer…. so could you please guide me if that is enough to claim the benefit under reservation or do i have to get another obc or income certificate to be issued?
I am also facing same problem, actually I sent mail about this daught to UPSC but they did not reply me yet, what to do ? If you able to get this please tell me…
Has there been any change in the guidelines recently for the Creamy later criterions ?
Thank you very much for ncl conclusion
Sir… plz help me..I have a question during issue of my obc card..block office wants my father’s previous documents and records.but my father’s hade no previous records or documents.and now we are permanently live in other place …in that case..what I do..
What means parents annual income ? Is it income after all deduction (80c, 80D, HRA, LTA) or total gross income including all deduction as per IT return form? What if total gross income is above 8 lakhs but with deduction it is below 8 lakhs, then can we apply for non cream layer?
If parents is working in psu and their annual income is more than 8 lacs, but they are not in executive post(below the executive post) therefore their children come on obc ncl or not?
NCL
It depends on the level of designation they are at. Higher ranking officials in PSUs are excluded from the OBC reservation as per the document above…
M also facing same problem but Ambala jurisdiction deny status of ncl
Suggesting me same
Is income limit for obc non creamy layer increased from 8lacs to 12 lacs?
Same sir
Hello Aishwarya, have you got any update on this.. if yes then please share.
What is meant by other source of income for government employees.
Is interest earned by FDs in bank ,is rent earned from house and is intetest deposted by EPFO Office on employees deposits fall other source of Income?
I think interest on FD will be considered
1)What will happen if I come under OBC category (Non-creamy layer ) but I don’t have OBC certificate, Can I still able to fill the UPSC form?
2)What will happen if I fill up the UPSC form with the general category but I belong to OBC(Non-creamy layer) category?
3)Will I get all the benefits next year onwards if I will able to produce OBC certificate next year onwards.
I am also facing same problem .I sent mail to UPSC about this daught but they did not reply yet what to do? please if
you able clear this daught reply me..
My parents income (Excluding salary ) is Zero. My parents income from salary about 18 Lakhs . My Father is group B officer and my Mother is group D staff.Age of My father is about 52 and my mother is 42 .We have one self occupied flat in urban areas. Can I get the benefit for being an OBC candidate.
Sir my father is holding subedar post in Indian army do I come under non creamy layer.
I am second grade teacher by promoting in 2013. My gross salary more than 8 lac. My community is obc Jat. Am I creamy layer or non creamy layer in OBC.
Bhai same question . Do you got the answer??
i need , one more information..
what is the difference between OBC “A” and OBC “B”?
Sir my father is class B government employee. Bt at the time of joining he was class C employee. Now for NCL Class C proof is important for submission or not?
I belong to obc .Both my parents joined as group C employee.after promotion they both got promoted to group B later after age of 40.they have no other source of income than salary.Am I eligible for obc non creamy layer?
HELLO navi,
one of my parent joined as group-c post( govt teacher), am i eligible for non-creamy OBC layer? annual income greater than 8 lakhs. please reply if you are having necessary information on this. thanks.
Hello Sir, please read the government article about provisions of OBC NCL status you’ll get the answer. As far as I remember it was for Grade ‘B’ it was exempted
My parents salary is 60k pm.
Land above 5acres.
M i eligible for obC non creamy layer.
Urgent assistance needed.
Sir, My district administration at Madhya Pradesh has refused me the OBC NCL certificate, though my parents are class 3 employee in state government. I have shown them DOPT order regarding this. But they are still refusing stating that may parents has income from salary which is greater than 8 lakh… Apart from salary and agriculture we have no other income.
Only few days are left to apply for CSE. I’ve also written Mains last year. Kindly help.
Bro please provide us that DOPT . I am also facing same problem. Please send me too. That or any link for download. My mail is [email protected] thanks bro
Bro.. Same case… Phir bnaya OBC-NCL certificate tumhara un logo ne
Urgent assistance needed.
Sir, my district administration in Marhy Pradesh has refused me OBC NCL certificate. My parents are class 3 employees in state government, and draw iccome from salary which is greater than 8 lakh per annum but have no income except salary and agriculture.
I have also shown them DOPT order regarding this. But they have still refused. Kindly help.
Only few days are left to apply for. I have written Mains last year.
As has been clarified by “clearias”, you should approach the Distt. Collector of your district with the material/clarifications provided here in this article. You may carry this material as soft copy (PDF) or take printouts of the same.
I am sure, the Collector will definitely help you out.
And, in case your parent(s) is(are) govt.(central/state) employee(s), their salary/agricultural income is not considered for determining your creamy layer status. Income from other sources means income from interest, rent, trading in stocks etc.
Well explained Tarsem. Thank you for helping aspirants 🙂
My mother and my father both are group c employees but they are earning more than 8 lakhs can I claim before obc non-creamy layer
My mother and my father both are group c employees but they are earning more than 8 lakhs can I claim before obc non-creamy layer
Kya bakawas hai agar 8lac salary say hai to kyu nahi count karti.
Sir ,we are three brothers . My father is daily labour and my mother is housewife .I am the elder one my younger brothers are central government employees then I am obc cremilayer or not
Respected Sir, My question is regarding Caste. My father was a banker in state rural bank and currently he is retired. Before retirement his salary was around 94000 per month and now he is getting pension around 44850 per month. At the time when he joined bank was a clerk. My mother is a housewife. I am a UPSC aspirant looking for relaxation under OBC- NCL. I have obtained my OBC NCL caste certificate from Tehesildar previous year. From which catagory do I apply for UPSC exam OBC-NCL or General. Please reply as soon as possible . Thank you.
Hello Neeraj. Were you classified as NCL? Please respond as i’m also an aspirant and would like to claim the NCL category
Apply NCL OBC
My father salary income is above 8 lakha but no other income sourse. I can applicable for NONCRAMYLAYR certificate, Sir plzzz reply but I am in obc category
Thanks sir, but I have a query regarding OBC non creamy layer. Is income from salary not a criteria for determining OBC non creamy layer in case of son of Group-C employee/ Group D employee as you have mentioned only about officer class???? Kindly clarify.
My husband is working in private company having salary more than 8 lakes per annum. Is am I eligible to get non creamy layer certificate for my children.
Hello, I’m a married woman and there is confusion regarding consideration of income status, whether parent’s or husband’s. please help me in this regard. Thank you.
Only parents’ income will be considered
dear mam no doubt in it for You its your parents income only
Dear sir
Thanks for the information. I am also one of the candidate who face issues regarding OBC. I have OBC certificate of Delhi. But DDA not accept such certificate due to a central organisation & Delhi police allow it which is also under MHA.
Kindly provide solution if u have.
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Thanks
Manish Rana ji
You belong to state category so cant be considered in Central list like UPSC/Banking Jobs/SSC
Sir,
Iam working in private company and my salary is 10 lakh for year.Whether I will get OBC NCL certificate or not please suggest me.
simple thing is if you are in private sector and your salary or income (from other sources) is more than 8 lakh for last 3 years, you are in creamy layer
Dear Sir ,
I am working in private organisation . My salary is above 8 lakhs per annum . My other source of income is 2 lakhs per annum . I am preparing my son to appear for JEE examination. Last time my application got rejected based on my salary . Can I reapply for OBC NCL again ? Is my son eligible for OBC NCL
I am second grade teacher by promoting in 2013. My gross salary more than 8 lac. My community is obc Jat. Am I creamy layer or non creamy layer in OBC.
Salute u sir u r clear my all doubt.
मेरा एनसीएल ओबीसी पिछले अगस्त 19 में समाप्त हो गया था और मैंने 31अगस्त 19 को मुलाकात दी और इसे 4 सितंबर 19 को NCL जारी किया गया और प्राप्त किया। अब, मेरी सितंबर 19 में वहा पद हासिल किया है तो बाद में मुझे कही NCL के बारे में मेरी नौकरी को कोही Problem हो सकती है क्या?अपने सुझाव दें
Thank you Keshao. Happy to know that the above post helped.
Hi,
My father is working as an Asst. Manager in a cooperative bank. His annual salary is 12 lakhs. My mother is a housewife. Am I eligible for OBC non-creamy layer?
Hi Avinash, got any update on this?
Sir I m a ex serviceman from army , pension 19000 PM.now office assistant In Garmin bank, 51000 pm.(crossed 8 lac) can I avail OBC NCL.
Your income is not considered for OBC NCL for you. Only your parents. Your income/status will be considered only for the NCL of your son/daughter.
Dear Sir ,
I am working in private organisation . My salary is above 8 lakhs per annum . I am preparing my son to appear for JEE examination. Can I apply for OBC NCL ? Is my son eligible for OBC NCL
Sir, I am working in a PSU bank as a scale 1 officer, belongs to EBC list of Bihar, recently government classified the post as equivalent to group A officer,
will i get the benefit of reservation in upsc or state pcs?
kindly guide.
with more strict criteria than OBC, EWS candidates do not have any age relaxation, what’s bigger example of “discrimination on the basis of caste” which ironically Indian Constitution prohibits.
I want to know whether I’m in creamy layer or not ?. My father is a govt. Employee of group B but mother is housewife. My father’s income as per govt. salary is around 9 lakh per year but there is no any other source of income. I’m still in dilemma that whether I’m in creamy layer or not. Plz resolve it.
Heyy .. Have you got your NCL certificate?
Sir, both my parents have passed away.. On applying for OBC da officials asked for my income.. Though they provided me the obc certificate but they have mentioned my annual income which is less than 8lakh in the certificate.. Will UPSC accept my obc certificate as it doesn’t reflect my parental income which is NIL..
Tq sir
Hi.
Regarding OBC non creamy.. If own house in metropolitan city considered for OBC non creamy??
In which group / class sub inspector come ?
Can you please provide me the Goverments’s Notification on Government employee’s non creamy layer basis..
“Salary and agricultural income are not to be considered as income for calculating annual income for creamy layer status. ”
I not getting the above point.
My father is working in a private firm.
He has filed income tax, with gross total income of around 5L, 6L,6.5L in 2016-17,2017-18,2018-19
Will im a non creamy layer?
If anyone reply it will be so helpful. Plz
In karnataka,The Revenue authorities calculate the ‘creamy layer’ on Salary income too.The GOI may give clear instructions and guide lines for assessing income of the candidates falling under creamy layers ..
I have once applied in General category. Once in OBC non creamy layer and once in OBC creamy layer. I dont remember my first attempt status. Now this year it is going to be my 5th attempt. Does my application history hinders me in anyway ?
It should not. Don’t worry about the history of the applications. OBC NCL status can vary year to year.
Thanks for the clarification sir.
sir
my first apoinment as class3 /group C in govt of Maharashtra in service i pramotted class 1/Group A before age of 40year …my salary and agricultural income above 8 lakh ..my wife house wife…can my son falls under NCL OR NL
pl carify considering my first apoinment as group c
sir
waiting for your reply pl
I am 50 year old a group B non gazetted central government servent at present promoted from group c in 2010. My sallery is around Rs 75000.00 PM.
My wife is housewife.
Please clarify wether I am in non creamy layer.
sir/maam,
my father is a state govt employee and does not come under group a or b, by mother in a central govt employee who got promoted to group b after the age of 40yrs, their combined income is more than 8 lakhs and there is no other source of income, do i come under nc-obc category.
regards.
Sir,
My caste comes under OBC list. My father working as Group C technician in southern Railway and my mother is working as Teacher with Group B grade(she got promoted to Group B post before 40 years). Annual income more than 8 lakh but no other income other than salary. Can i get OBC Non-Creamy layer without any doubt? Please help!
Sir main safiqul Alam,obc_a non creamy layer,,cast Muslim mandal,,jo central government obc list par nehi hai,,main rail recruitment par obc ncl apply Kiya,west Bengal se,,
Mera ye certificate applicable hoga keya ???
Hi Alam,
If your caste does not appear in Central List of OBCs, then OBC certificate serves no purpose! The certificate issued to you by the authorities of your State may be valid for posts in the State Govt. Just check-up carefully, it may be BC certificate & not the OBC one.
Thank you for this article. It is an eye opener indeed.
Both my parents are not working and I belong to Tamil Nadu. How am I supposed to provide proofs pertaining to the income of my parents?
Hello sir my father is group c employee and he is earning mote than 8 lac per annum should I apply as obc or general for exams.
OBC – NCL. If Group C, income (salary) does not matter. Only status matters.
However, if he earns more than 8 lakhs from income from other sources, you become Creamy Layer.
Hi,
I am a government job aspirant. I went through this article about NCL OBC.
My query is am I eligible for NCL Certificate :-
1. My mother is an assistant teacher in a govt. primary school (age 54, no promotions taken) which comes under M.P. Govt. Her gross salary including emoluments and allowances is approximately 850000.
2. My father is a LIC agent (commission basis) and he earns nearly 550000 per year.
Considering this please answer me if I come under NCL OBC category.
Thankyou
Deepesh Rai
Hi,
I am preparing for Bank exams(IBPS), and I am from Andhra Pradesh.
My father is a school assistant(teacher), with income of more than 8 lakhs per year.
As per your details I applied for obc ncl and they rejected saying your income is more than 8 lakhs.
Please tell me that how to make know the tahsildar to know that I will come under obc ncl category.
Please provide if you have any documents.
Please consider my request.
I belong to Vokkaliga community from Karnataka. I was born and brought up in urban area. My parents were born and studied in rural area. My father worked in PSU. After retirement he is residing in village. In NCBC website it is mentioned VOKKALIGA (rural areas only). Am I eligible for OBC non creamy layer? Please kindly help.
Thank you
सर, मैं राजस्थान सरकार मैं third grade teacher (bstc से,) हूँ, मेरी gross income लगभग 5 लाख है। मेरे पिता जी state govt. पेन्सनर है, उनकी income 4 लाख के लगभग है। और मेरी wife संविदा कर्मी है जिसकी income लगभग 80हजार है।
सर, मैं ignou से bed करना चाहता हूँ, क्या मुझे obc नॉन क्रिमिलियर का लाभ मिल सकता है।
इसमें सिर्फ मेरे पिताजी की आय ही जुड़ेंगी या मेरी और पत्नी की भी जुड़ेंगी।
Sirf apke parents ki
sir my father is class c govt employee (state uttar pradesh) but his annual income is a little more than 8 lac, so can i avail benefits of obc ncl category?
Yess
Hi Aman,
I presume that your father retired as Class C employee from State Government. In case he was promoted to Class A or B, I presume that he was not promoted before the age of 40 years. I also presume that he is not earning more than Rs.8.00 Lakh per year from other sources (excluding pension and agricultural income) for the last consecutive three years. If my above presumptions hold good, then I think, you are entitled for Non-creamylayer OBC certificate. Your parents’ income from only other sources, e.g. bank interest, business etc. for the financial years 2015-16, 2016-17 & 2017-18 shall only be taken into account for determining your creamy layer status. Your and your spouse’s status/income has nothing to do with issue of this certificate.
With best wishes!
I am working indian oil corporation ( public sector unit) as workman category. I want apply KV school admission for My child. I choose creamy layer category or non creamy layer category. Which one i choose.
Thank you sir
Hello sir,
Currently, i got job as Assistant Professor in central university on OBC quota.
am i eligible to apply in another university in OBC quota ?
Thank you so much !
Hi
Sir actually my father is a govt employee language pandith grade 2 and his annual income is less than 8 lack so am I eligible for this OBC NCL certificate
Does salary is taken into consideration of private sector employees? please reply
Sir i am belonging obc category-B,then i am belongs to creamy layer or not?
Sir my OBC certificate says that i belongs to OBC category-B,then i am creamy layer Or not?
Hi sir,
My father income in 3 lakh per annum(a business person), and belong to OBC.
Should i belong to non-creamy layer.
My income in NIL from last 1.5 year, earlier i was a working professional with annual income of 6 lakh.
Am i eligible to get non creamy layer benefit in UPSC CSE exam?
Thanks,
Sanjeev
Sir
I joined in government organization as a class II Oficer and got promotion which is also class II officer Post and presently working as a class 2 Officer.My salary is 24 Lakhs per year . My wife is home maker and does not have monthly income. But my other source of income is 8500 per month from house rent and interest earned from FD for 6 lakhs deposits (For my wife account) is around 45000. Putting Altogether other source of income is 1.5 Lakhs.
Whether my children would be eligible for OBC NCL
SIR
In order to proof other source of income is less than 8.0 Lakh per annum is it sufficient to produce form 26 AS and form 16 in MRO Or Thasildar office to get OBC Certificate
SIR
In order to proof other source of income is less than 8.0 Lakh per annum is it sufficient to produce form 26 AS and form 16 in MRO Or Thasildar office to get OBC Certificate
Hello sir,
I am about to take interview for admission in srcc for mba.
They have asked for obc certificate and income salary proof.
I have the OBC certificate issued by government of India from my tahsil office.
But i guess my father’s salary is above 8 point something LPA, he works for SAIL.
Will I be considered OBC
Hello Sir,
I wanted to know about the claiming of OBC.I am born in MUMBAI and my dad in UP.So,is it valid if I make central gvt obc certificate from UP and apply for BANKING EXAM (SBI/IBPS)and get selected for MUMBAI region.
in the case of unmarried girls , village officer said that Along with their parents brother’s (unmarried) income counted . Is there any provision like that ?
Hello sir.
If one of the parent is in government service (group c) and other parent in private, then combined income of parents or only the income of parent in private is considered for determination of non creamy layer ?
Sir
I am writing this on behalf of my friend. He is Latin catholic with obc NCL but his wife is some malankara orthodox christain which is not entitled to have a reservation under obc. Is my friends children eligible for obc Ncl certificate from the concerned Thahaseeldar.
Thnx
Some central universities reject admission due to non submission of NCL with clearly specifing the total income does not exceed 8L.At the time of certificate verification they demand it and says objection.To convince them can you quote rule number / clarification of GoI. Thanking you Sekhar.
What if my father didn’t have the OBC certificate but all of my relatives have that..how can i apply then. ?
Sir
I am class II Officer in state PSU.
Since last consecutive 3 years my gross total income is more than 15 lakhs.
As per Wealth test notified in NCBC, whether my sons are eligible for OBC NCL?
My other source of income for the last 3 years is less than 5.0 Lakhs
Hi i need a help ..i am a upsc aspirant ..i started my preparation very late only when one attempt was left because my father was in paramilitary and i came under nc obc so i thought of taking the benefits of age relaxation. However my father recently retired and joined a private sector job where the income is more than 8 lakh. So now if i apply for a new certificate will i be considered in creamy layer because of current income or non creamy based on my fathers job in paramilitary. Hoping to get a amswer
Need your help in understanding below queries on OBC Non creamy layer(NCL) certificate criteria.
I am currently employed in a private company, moving out of job and getting into agriculture. when I leave my private job, my gross salary income for the current year including Gratuity will be less than 8 Lakhs.
Queries:
1. Is private company salary income included for OBC NCL certificate purpose?
2. If so, salary income means gross income or after standard deductions?
3. Will my gratuity amount be included for income calculation?
4. Is income of current year ie. the year in which i apply for OBC NCL certificate is only considered or last 3 years if so Higher or lower of last 3 years?
5. Is agriculture income included as income for OBC NCL certificate purpose?
6. In a given year if one is in business, then how his/her income will be taken into account or how he/she can produce income certificate for NCL certificate as they will file only after the financial year completion?
7. After getting the certificate, if one gets a job or earns more than 8 Lakhs, how this will be treated for NCL eligibility.
Thank you.
Earnestly awaiting for your reply.
My father acquired the Colonel rank at the age of 55 and we come under an OBC caste. Am I eligible to acquire a NCL certificate?
My father is employed in category 3 job.
Am i eligible for OBC NCL on this basis?
I have to apply non creamy layer certificate for my son, both me and my husband are working in private firm and have income above 8lacs. In this case will I get the Non creamy certificate and the benefits for reservations.
Can anyone reply please it’s bit urgent.
Very well explained. Thank you.
Sir,
If a person eg: A, is working in central government departments or PSU(As an officer) and his personal annual income is 7.00 lacs from all sources.(average of last 3 years)
Meanwhile his parents(Retired) has average annual income is rs 4 Lacs(income from pension and interest on FD)
My question is whether Mr. A is considered as non creamy OBC or not.
Please reply with proper justification.
Thanks in advance.
I got my obc non creamy layer certificate today 7/6/2019 is it valid for 2020 IAS exam. Please reply
Sir my father’s income was less than 8 at the time of form fill up but now it is more than 8 lakh suggest me what to do can i make my non creamy layer certificate or not.
Hi,
My father got promotion to Junior scale 1 at age of 58 in Public Sector Bank. His income his coming above 8 lacs. Kindly confirm whether I am still eligible for NCL. The authorities have rejected my form…Please do reply it’s very urgent
Hi, I am a private company employee with annual income of 20Lakh. I belong to OBC as per state notification. My son applied in a country wide test in OBC NCL catogary. He got selected in that. Now, the concern CO is stating 8Lakh tab for issuing the certificate. Should he eligible to get OBC NCL certificate?
Kindly clarify with some notification documents…
Salary and agriculture income is not included. As you are private employee, your status is zero according to govt. Even you earn 20 Crore, your son would come under OBC NCL according to me.
Hello Sir,
I am soni swami.I was from obc category but now i married to a gen category men, can I fill bank exam forms with obc category or should i fill it with gen ??
Hi soni, I also have same issue, did u get any information regarding this plz reply me
hi sir,
My name is vigneswaran. My father is working in abroad and his salary is more than 8lakh per annum. Whether i will come under OBC non creamy layer or not?
Sir I working in gov bank as a manager having salary of 730000 per year and my father is an agriculturalist having 50000 yearly income and I want to apply for gov job weather I m eligible for non creamy layer to get reservations benifits
Is Brother salary income count in above limit?
My father’s last year income exceeds 8 lakh but income of 2 years before that is below 8 lakh. Am I eligible for obc-ncl? If yes can u provide supporting document?
Sir, if someone’s father retired from state PSU from the rank of General Manager, 4 yrs ago.. Getting pension per annum 5 lakhs.. Can his son/daughter get obc(no-creamy layer) certificate?
My mother is Assistant professor in state government institution and my dad was chief engineer in state government who retired 6months back not received his pension yet. Income more than 8L p.a. can i apply for obc ncl certificate?
Sir,I am working as Class 1officer under Delhi Govt.But excluding salary , income from other sources is under 8 lakh.WILL MY DAUGHTER GET OBC NON CREAMY LAYER CERTIFICATE?
In kerala state iam non creamy layer because mybentry into service is in age of 37 years.But the thahsildar is saying that iam not eligible for centr purpose.In kerala we have upper age limit guidelines as 36 yrs for state govt employees.Can a NCL certificate having different validity for centr and state
My father’s income is more than 8 lac..so how can I get the ncl obc certificate??pls help
I’ve got Central OBC Certificate issued by Uttar Pradesh government. It is written on this that I belongs to NON CREAMY LAYERS. But it is digitally signed. There’s no physical sign available on the certificate. I would like to know if it is valid for UPSC or not? Kindly help me in this regard.
Sir I fall under OBC as per caste and i m working in private company.My salary is above 10 lakh and my others source of income is from inetrest on bank account ,which is 3 lakh.Do i fall under NC OBC ?
Sir Im from Telangana.
I got BCB MARATHA caste certificate from state government and also a Non creamy layer certificate Issued by Tehsildar.
But the problem is that my caste name is not mentioned in NCBC under OBC.
but my atate
Sir Im from Telangana.
I got BCB MARATHA caste certificate from state government and also a Non creamy layer certificate Issued by Tehsildar.
But the problem is that my caste name is not mentioned in NCBC under OBC.
but I dont come under obc then I wouldnt have got the Non Creamy layer certificate
Then what should I do sir
“It is very urgent. Require the correct information for admission”
Sir,
I wanted to know that my fathers income which he earns by his goverment service is approx. 20 lakhs PA and we don’t have any other source of income. And he doesn’t belong to Group A or Group B officer.
I belong to OBC according to the Central Govt. List.
So do I belong to OBC-CL or OBC-NCL
Sir,
Can you tell me which article of our constitution states the thing you have written above in the article.
Hello Sir,
My father has taken VRS from Central Govt after serving 15 years in Grade 3. Now he is working in private firm with salary > 8LPA. Am i eligible for OBC NC?
TIA
How to get OBC Non Creamy Layer Certificate when Family broke relationship due to inter caste marriage?
My wife have OBC Certificate. But due to our inter-caste marriage her family broke all ties with her. They removed her name from Ration Card also.For getting OBC Non Creamy Layer Certificate my wife needs to produce 3 years statement/ certifiacte of Family income. Her Family members are not in her touch. We need OBC NCL Certificate. So, whether there is any legal provision which would help us in this case? How can she get OBC NCL Certificate without getting touch/ involving with her family?
Dear Sir,
I am a resident of West Bengal.My father is a retired state government employee.My father used to work at KMWSA(Kolkata Metropolitan Water & Sanitation Authority) as surveyor post I have state obc certificate for non-creamy layer but I do not have central obc certificate.I want to know that what is the criteria of central obc certificate for retired state govt.employee?
Please reply in mail sir..
Thanking you…
If a candidate income more than 8lack he is eligible for non creamy layer obc certificate.
Dear Sir,
While filling DAF-1 today, came up with the following doubt, please help.
Family income is not above 8 lakh per annum, i have the NCL certificate, but my father possess residential flat above 1000 sq feet (flat as in, house in a small town) , what difference does that make?
Why is it asked in DAF?
i am an SUB divisional engineer aged 44.entered in BSNL not in DOT at the age of 27 years as Group B officer.My wife is in private and salary less than 3 lakhs per annum.Mine is 12 lakhs per annum .We both dont have any other income.Whether my daughter is eligible for OBC-NC certificate.
Hello, I fall under OBC-NC. In DAF Parental Information form, in the income field, do I need to enter income of parent including or excluding salary?
Sir,
As per the given criteria I belong to obc non creamy layer.
My father’s salary is around 9.5 lakh per annum.
So, can I mention this amount in the column “FATHER’s ANNUAL INCOME” in the application?
Best guidance. Thanks.
Sir.
I am working under central govt. unit. at Groub ‘B”cadre. but my annual income was cross Rs.8 Lakh at only last year. Whether I will come under OBC Non creamy layer category. pl. give feedback.
Sir.namaskar. It is submitted that I belongs to OBC Giri category of uttarakhand . My son married with General category women of uttarakhand. Kindly inform me whether women is entitled to get the benefits of OBC after marriage.
Sir, my caste in Bihar central list for OBC and as per myself in non creamy layer as per your presentation above. I am migrated to U.P. and working in a UP state PSU & residing in company quarter of company from last more than 25 years. I want to obtain OBC certifi cate of my minor daughter whose birth certificate,aadhar card and schooling of U.P. Also in my aadhar card have address of U.P..My Bihar home is in close condition since many years. kindly suggest procedure to obtain OBC certificate of my daughter.From Where it will be issued.At present I have no recent documents for address of Bihar. Myself have OBC certificate issued in 1995 from Bihar. U.P. local authority is denying to issue my daughter certificate . Kindly suggest so that i may obtain OBC certificate of my daughter.
sir , my father is a gruop 4 senior assistant in DEO office in AP , my doubt is my father salary is above 8 lakhs but my caste is BC-A . I am eligible for obc non creamy layer certificate or not.My father age is 55.
What if an obc candidate father doesnot earn more than 8lakhs but own land and plots of more than 50lakhs
Respected Sir,
If I am recruited directly in Government service as Group C before 40 years and get promoted to Group B before 40 years, am I eligible for OBC Status.
Sir/ mam, I have passed ugc net June 2019 without getting obc certificate. If I’m getting obc certificate on September 2019 is it valid to produce for that. Kindly reply clarify my doubt.
My father is a state psu employee posted in grade ‘c’.
His annual income is 11.5 lakhs.
Am i eligible for OBC NCL.
I belongs to bc-d in state level and my father is a retired bank employee and his annual income is below 8 lakhs did I came under creamy layer or not
Dear Sir/Mam,
My name is Saurabh Katiyar. I belong to Kurmi caste (OBC) of Uttar Pradesh. I have cleared the IBPS PO exam in 2014 and directly recruited as JMGS-I . My present annual gross income is more than 8 Lakhs. But my parents annual income is less than 8 lakhs. I am preparing for IAS.
Whether I belong to creamy layer or Non Creamy Layer?
Please clarify.
Agricultural income and personal income are exempted
Hii sir
My name is rahul Kumar
Sir mai bolna chahunga ki mere 10th certificate k anusar mere fathers name me title Agarwal ho gya h lekin mere mata ya pita koi v kisi prakar k job nhi krte nhi hi uska annual Income 8 lakh h to kya hum OBC non creamy layer k andar aayenge ya nhi
Aur conform krne k liye mujhe apse baat krna h kya koi Mobil no. Mil skte h please
Mai bahut paresan hu isko leke please sir
Hello, I’m a married woman and there is confusion regarding consideration of income status, whether parent’s or husband’s. please help me in this regard. Thank you.
Hello Sir,
My question is about once non creamy layer certificate.
My husband is a government medical officer in Rajasthan.
My father is a shopkeeper.
Can I apply for the once non creamy layer certificate ND is that I am eligible for it
As I am 32 yrs old. ND for 2020 upsc I need age relaxation, for which I need once non creamy layer e.
Please let me know all about it ND please help me out.
Sir,
I am working in Kerala State Electricity Board Ltd., as Engineer and wife is a Doctor working in a private hospital at Kollam, Kerala. I am belong to Chetty caste. My son studying in 12th standard. His cast entered in the register is also Chetty. As per the State & Central OBC list Chetty comes under OBC. My son is applying for JEE examination. I request you please clarify whether my son comes under OBC (Non Creamy Layer).
Sir,
Iam working in private company and my salary is 10 lakh for year.Whether I will get OBC NCL certificate or not please suggest me.
Very very good information about OBC NCL
Iam the Employee of the Muncipal administration department as a senior assistant. as per the above information/guidlines my doughter eligible for OBC NCL ?
(My openion is Eligible)
Please confirm through e mail
For a business man income means only the return file to income tax or the property also.
I am Vishwas, i belong to vokkaliga, born , brought up and all my educational qualifications were done in Bangalore. As per central list of obc it is mentioned that vokkaliga ( rural areas only ) so i want know whether i belong to obc creamy layer or non creamy layer where as my family’s income is less than 8lakh
Dear Sir,
I am working professional and receive the income around 6 L but my parents income are not exceed 3 L per annum. Am I eligible to apply OBC certificate as Non creamy layer ? Is my income consider for eligibility or not ?
Sir, i am facing serious problem in getting non creamy layer certificate. My father do private job and his salary is above 8 lakh…but as salary income shall not be included then i am eligible for non creamy layer as there is no other source of income.
In maharashtra, there is online portal for getting certificates, but if put income as above 8 lakh then it says you are not eligible….plz help
Sir, I belong to OBC category.My father is a state govt middle school teacher (grade 3/level 3) in Rajasthan and my mother is a house wife. My father gross income in past 3 consecutive years is as follows: 2016-17: less than 8lakh
2017-18:less than 8lakh
‘2018-19:more than 8lakh
Also we are not engaged in any other business or whatsoever
Whether i belong to OBC creamy layer or OBC non creamy layer
Please reply me as soon as possible, it’s urgent .
Thankful in advance
Very nice article. Very helpful .
Sir,
I am working as scale 1 in nationalised bank. Am I eligible to obtain OBC certificate or not
I am working as a manager in private limited company
This manager status whether include me in creamy layer.?
Hi
I am a single parent and my son is preparing for his prelims UPSC, I am separated from my husband and it’s almost 12 year now but we haven’t proceeded legally. My query is my son wants to write his upsc and he has OBC certificate, we want to apply for non-creamy layer OBC. What parent document is required, I can only provide main and can’t get any documents of my husband. Please suggest how it works to get OBC-non-creamy layer for my son. Kindly advice. Thanks in advance.
K.Palanisamy
I am a retired Central Govt servant. My pension is above Rs 8 lakhs per annum. I joined as class I officer in Govt of India at the age of 29. Whether my son is eligible for OBC for applying for central Govt jobs/. No mention about retired Govt employees in the web cite.
Hello sir m widow n my annual income 10lakhs m only one person who earn I have 2 kids n my caste come in OBC so I want non creamy category? M self employe plz guide me sir thanku
Parental income should be less than 8 lakhs….so by the info you have given…you are not eligible for non creamy layer certificate…
You are saying you are self employed…many self empoyed people (for eg. Shopkeeper) show income less than 8 lakhs even though there actual income is more….and get non creamy certificate..
Hope you got it ..
Sir, My father and Mother both are State government employees & Income from both parent (father and mother) is more than 8 lakh ( approx 12 lakhs per annum) . But both father and mother are in group ‘ C ‘ post.
Am I eligible for OBC Noncreamy layer certificate?
If ‘Yes’ Then How? Any Source?
my caste is Ekila , which is grouped under BC A in AP state Govt, but it is not found in OBC List of Central Govt. my parents annual income is Rs xxxx, which is less than 8.0 Lakhs( excluding salary/pension , no agrl income) my father is retired state Govt employee, not belongs to Group I, II service ) mother is house wife. Am I eligible to get non-creamy layer certificate from Revenue Depart for seeking appointment in State Govt posts ? K Mohan
DEAR SIR,
My son in law was an All India Service Officer (IFS) who expired while in service on 08-09-2018, leaving behind wife and only daughter. My Grand Daughter is B.Tech final and wishes to apply for Civil services.
the following OBC ( NC)criteria may be examined.
i. My daughter and granddaughter are only two members in the family and my daughter gets family pension by central Govt and IT Payee for A.Y 2017-18,2018-19 AND 2019-20.
ii.Excluding Central govt pension and agricultural income her income is Rs.2,55,521, Rs.2,86,368 and Rs.3,02,105 respectively for AYs 2017-18, 2018-19 and 2019-20 as per IT Returns, forming other sources income ,interest in come rental income.
iii.Wealth tax in India was abolished by Govt.of India w.e.f 28-02-2016. However, my daughter’s net wealth is also less than Rs.30 lakhs, within the exempted limit of wealth tax.
iv.My granddaughter being the daughter of an Officer under the category of Service Category, Class I Officers of AIS who died while on duty and as exempted from creamy layer as per proviso (a) to
II.Service Category of OM –
v. My granddaughter is applying for OBC Non-creamy layer certificate.
Please reply and guide us.
Regards,
A.Sudhakar,IFS Retd
[email protected], [email protected].
now central govt has abolished wealth tax. HOw you will you apply wealth test?
I belong to SC creamy layer. Am i eligible for age relaxation till 37 years?
Hello sir you have cleared almost most of our doubts with this post. Thank you for that sir. But i still have a query, will the board mention my hallticket number in prelims cleared list if my marks are equal to obc cut off. Since we are not asked to produce any obc certificate before prelims, how would the board confirms whether i belong to obc ncl or not bfr announcing prelims result..?
Pls kindly reply sir
Family Pension paid to the single parent by central govt is to be excluded like salary income or not to be clarified for computing family income
Please clarify.
This write-up is very very important and may clear every terms regarding OBC reservation eligibility in fact I have read so many write up on clarification but this is the the most clear all of them about the OBC eligibility .
But some Paras should also be there regarding the retired parents father from government services. aspi
I am a general category candidate married to a OBC man . Can I avail the OBC age relaxation benefit by filling the form as OBC please answer..
I’m a Muslim Mondal from West Bengal, and belong O.B.C-A in west bengal state ; Can I apply as an O.B.C in the NTA UGC NET Exam?
hlo sir,
need urgent assistant
i have a caste certificate which says i belong to BC-e category
i still have a doubt regarding of my caste status.
i dont know exactly which category should i use to apply for UPSC examination.
and my father is a group 4 state govt. employee and his salary is less than the criteria of income mentioned by Govt. of India for reservation..
so i have a doubt which category should i have to select while applying for my examinations either should use OBC or general categorgy.
Dear Sir,
I need some clarification regarding OBC non creamy layer.
Before applying for OBC non creamy layer certificate , I would like to clarify some doubts.
If you don’t mind , can you please clarify these doubts.
1. I belongs to KURUBA Community/caste and we are staying in urban area , Can I apply for OBC certificate if, parents income is with in
limit.
2. For Computing annual income for OBC certificate which of the following duration should be considered.
(a) Income( from all the sources) from April to march of financial year should be added up. or
(b) Income( from all the sources) from January to December of calendar year should be added up
3. My friend would like to apply/try for jobs in public sector under OBC. Now he is in private sector job. Now, For OBC, Total Income, should he considered from parents alone his income from private company should be added to parents income.
4. As income limit is changing from time to time, from Rs. one lakh to 2.5 lakhs, Rs. 2.5 lakhs to 4.5 lakhs, 4.5 lakhs to 6 lakhs etc
I would like to know, income limit changes and corresponding years, starting from One lakh. ( I mean ,income limit is amended from what limit to what limit in Lakhs and corresponding years.)
5. When public sector jobs are called for officers, in advertisement , when I am suppose to submit OBC certificate as per Government directive/ Govt rules, if nothing is mentioned in the advertisement
( i e when I am applying for the the post( by submitting application online under OBC) or when I am appearing for the interview or when I am joining for the post ,if I got selected.)
6. when job is called for various posts in a particular date, Is there any rule as per Govt that I should obtain OBC certificate from Tasildar before some specified date. If this is not specified in the advertisement , what date should I considered.
7. Is there any new amendments for persons in urban areas of KURUBA community for OBC. If So in which year. I mean , Persons in urban areas of KURUBA community are eligible to apply for OBC certificate or not . If not eligible , from which year they are not eligible.
8. What is wealth limit for OBC non creamey layer in terms of rupees and properties.
I request , please kindly clarify me, these doubts. These information will be helpful to me and my friends, cousins etc.
Thanking you
Thanks and regards
Vijay Kumar
Sir, both my parents have passed away.. my father issued a OBC permanent certificate (on red – paper, issued by DM) in 2008 when he was alive. Will the same OBC Certificate will be valid for me for applying job in OBC category. The certificate clearly mentioed that we belong to non- creamy layer.
My father issued a OBC permanent certificate (on red – paper, issued by DM) in 2008 when he was alive. Will the same OBC Certificate will be valid for me for applying job in OBC category. The certificate clearly mentioed that we belong to non- creamy layer.
My mother and father is not alive.
Sir,my parents are u.p. state govt. 1 and 2 nd grade teachers.Both have above 8 lakh salary.I fall into obc.cat.May I come in obc(NCL) or creamy layer.
Sir my parents worked in group c posts and they got retired, while they were working they got salary above 8 lakhs per annum. Am i eligible for OBC NCL.
Thanks your valuable information sir..may I know if a person has OBC creamy layer certificate, though he comes under UR.can he avail the benefit of 3 years OBC extension for attempting the exam
hi sir
i am woking in a PSU and My gross salary at present was above 8 Lakh and my father is a farmer.
Whether i was eligble for OBC Non Creamy Layer.
Thank you sir and in an anticipation to get the reply asap.
Sir how to get OBC non creamy layer certificate. Actually whether e have to get it manually or digitally . Because some sources are saying now u have to apply digitally. Plz advice me
Sir, मैं राज्य सरकार उत्तराखंड के अंतर्गत शिक्षा विभाग में ग्रुप c के अंतर्गत सहायक अध्यापक हूँ मेरी वार्षिक आय सैलरी से 10,0000(दस लाख) है।और मेरी पत्नी ग्रहणी है।क्या मेरे बच्चों को ncl(ओबीसी) सर्टिफिकेट का लाभ मिलेगा।मेरी जाति, गिरि है।
sir, i am from Karnataka. My father working as GROUP C officer(state government) whose gross salary income crossed 8L ( from july 2019). whether i belong to NCL status ?
please clarify
Thank you sir
Sir my OBC certificate is state government issu not central government I can use for upsc this certificate
Hello sir, i am from Tamil Nadu. I am coming under OBC category. My father is a farmer and he is also having poultry farm. He gets chicks from Mani company and growing it and then gives it back to the company. Thereby he earn salary of around more than 8 lakhs per annum. Will this salary comes under upsc defined salary income for OBC candidate? And will I come under OBC non creamy layer category?
Is husband’s income apply for deciding creamy layer and non creamy layer of OBC if he earns more than 8 lakh
Sir , the obc certificate issued by our state is Obc ncl certificate but in state format. Do i need to take separate obc ncl certificate in central format to apply for upsc cse.
Hello sir, I am from raigarh chhattisgarh and my father is government teacher. Group chat and he recently promoted to group B (head master ) post. And the salary is 8.17 lakh per anum. My mom is house wife. And we don’t have any other source of income except my father salary. Do I eligible for non cremy layer status?
Hello sir,
My father is an exservicemen and he got recruited in central psu at the age of 41 as group c officer. He got promoted to group b at the age of 49.
His annual income from central psu is 6.2 lakhs.
His annual pension is 2.6 lakhs.
So cumulatively 8.8 lakhs.
Will I get obc ncl certificate???
Please do help me in this regard sir.
Thanks.
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Is husband’s or unmarried siblings’s income considered ???
I have an obc non creamy layer certificate of January 2019.
Can I produce that or should I take a new one.?
Kindly help me!
One of my parent is a group B state Gov. Servant. He retired from service 3 years ago. Will I fall under non creamy layer OBC category?
my OBC certificate validity period is 11/05/2019 to 31/03/2020. And it was issued on 11/05/2019. Does it ok for me seek for reservation?
Sir I am non government college teacher and my wife is a non high school teacher.We are receiving grant in aid from the government Rs12lakhs and Rs9.5 lakhs respectively.I was promoted to group A category at the age of 54.Can my son come under non creamy layer.Please reply as early as possible.
Respected sir,
For the exams conducted by UPSC, what if the OBC-NCL certificate will be produced after the closing of the application? Will my candidature will be canceled if get selected ?
My father is a government doctor working as a professor in state government medical college and his salary is above 8 lakhs per year and no ther source of income. Mother is housewife .my caste is under central obc list will i fall under obc creamy layer or noncreamy layer??
Hi bro, did your doubt got clarified ?
Good day,
my community belong to OBC category and i am working in gulf country and every year filling IT india became NRI. my salary is above 8 lakshs per year. kindly advice my daughter coming to creamy layer or Non creamy layer?
Sir,
I belong to BC-A caste and my father is state government employee Non gazetted officer and does not belong to group A or B officers but with annual income 8.5 lakhs…we don’t have any property or lands
Am I eligible to get obc non creamy layer certificate??
No, you are not eligible to ncl
Because your father income is 8.5 lakhs
Doesn’t matter you have any land or any property….
PLEASE DO REPLY ME
My father’s income in current year is more than 8 lakhs but previous year it was less than 8 lakhs .So will I get the benefits of reservation in the current year as I belong to OBC.
I have OBC certificate Dated 12/09/2019 … Can I apply for UPSC CAPF 2020 with this certificate..Pls help
I have a quary about other source and if both parents are died.then what is the income certificate.here what is the parent’s income?
If I disown my child after the age of 18 will he be eligible for non creamy layer OBC Certificate as my income is more than 8 lakh
Is there any eligibility criteria with respect to wealth to come under non creamy layer ?
Please do reply
muuje ye btao ki mere pass caste certificate hai central or up ka orr up wale mei hindi mei likha hai 8 lakh se km salary h inki toh kya muje obc ncl ka certificate alag bnwana pdega ya jo certificate mei likha hai ki hmare cast obc ncl mei aati hai. ye btao alag bnwau ka mei
sir muje ye btao ki mere pass central ka cast certificate hai agar mei apne se other state ke form apply krta hu toh kya muje uss state ka cast certificate bnwana pdega obc ka kya orr mere caste uss state mei bhi obc mei aati ho toh bnwana pdega kya central se kaam chl jaega
No, need to other certificate..
If you have obc certificate then you are eligible to apply..
Sir I am working as a senior manager (SCALEIII) in Public Sector bank my average annual income of last three years is more than 8lakhs and my father’s income is 1 lakhs per annum am I eligible for OBC NON-CREAMY LAYER certificate. The caste I belong falls under OBC in the state of Bihar Please reply as soon as possible
Dear Sir,
Very nice and informative article.
I have query that I am now serving as a Junior Manager Scale I officer in. PSB and my father has not income above 8 lacks.
Can I come under OBC NCL.
Does my status or parents status is considered for determining creamy layer status.
Kindly guide.
I am from West Bengal, I already have an OBC certificate issued in April ’19, when I approached the officials for Non-Creamy Layer Certificate, they said that I need to submit a copy of the Call Letter of Document Verification along with the proforma of the NCL Certificate. What I mean to say is that they will issue the NCL Certificate after the Call Letter of Document Verification is issued but in notification it is mentioned that the NCL Certificate must be obtained before the closing date of application. Kindly let me know what can be done in this situation.
I have a query
My father used to work in PSU Insurance and got job under Class III i.e. clerical level.
He got promoted to Class I after age of 40.
Now he is retired.
Moreover our income is below 8 Lakhs P.A. and it consists of pension only.
So would i still be eligible for non-creamy layer?
Kindly reply as soon as possible
Thank you
Sir/ma’am, both my parents are clerk(grade 3) but total annual income is more than 10 lakh after 7pay. Do i still in non creamy layer? Please reply me. I’m very curious to know. Thank you.
If candidate is holding grade B job and he belongs to OBC CATEGORY, parents are not earning and did not had govt job. If he wish to apply for another job of higher post. In this condition can he apply under OBC non creamy layer category?
I am a central government employee working as an assistant professor earning more than 8 lakhs but none of my parents were in govt service nor their income is 8 lakhs. Do I come under creamy or non creamy OBC? Kindly help!
Hey this is Jyoti actually I have comes under the obc non creamy layer and filled the form of 2020 prelims with creamy layer field. And I am having a certificate of non creamy layer of Obc since 2017 . Can u plz tell me what should I do. Do I need to make a new certificate of Obc and can I change my category from creamy to non creamy layer
Pls reply
My father used to work in a private company in June 2020 he left the job. Now he is not working anywhere and he was earning 30LPA. Will I be considered in NCL now or from which year?
Sir, Its a great article on the OBC-NCL. Appreciate it.
Is there any eligibility criteria for OBC NCL related to property(land/building) ownership ? I have heard some officials are asking about the same as part of interrogation. Hope this article explains about all eligibility requirements. If not, do we have any reference to all inclusive eligibility limits? Please help sharing your comments.
I am working as Assistant Professor my income is above 8 lakhs my age is above 40 and my caste is in OBC list. My parents are retired and their annual income is 4 lakhs. Kindly let me know whether I can eligible and can obtain non creamy layer certificate for applying the post of associate professor.
Dear Sir ,
I am working in private organisation . My salary is above 20 lakhs per annum . I am preparing my daughter to appear for NEET exam. Can I apply for OBC NCL ? Are my children eligible for OBC NCL.
Sir,plz answer my query .if someone’s parents are in government job like mother is nurse and father is in Delhi police inspector and now mother is expired one year before and she is selected in teacher exam in obc category than is she eligible for job or this is fraud.plz answer
What kind of action we take against officer who will not give the OBC NCL Certificate .. if any provision PLz share with me ???? well thanks for your awareness !!! i am deeply very happy !!!
In 2020 for obc non creamy is salary taken as income
Sir,
If your father is govt employee,how calculate your father annual income basic+da or basic+ all allownace.
Respected sir,
Under which Government Order I will get “In the case Group B/Class II Officer gets into Group A/Class I Officer after the age of 40 years, the children are entitled to get the reservation.” Kindly, mention the Government Order with date, so that by producing the said Government Order I can get OBC certificate for my son.
Sir, I must congratulate you for this valuable knowledge.
Sir/ma’am I’m obc candidate my father is a government worker in coalfield not class a or b post but my father income is more than 8 lakhs. And we also have a farm having early income of 1.5lakhs from it. So my question or doubt is will I get obc reservation in government colleges like IIM, tiss and government jobs or I have to fill the form through general quata only.
I am working in public ltd co. as Depty Manager, my gross salary for the year 2019-20 is 8.04 Lacs, can i get the benefits of non creamy layer. If yes please discribe the procedure .
Hi,
My father is on a managerial post in a PSU. Salary is more that 8L but gross income ( excluding salary) is less than 8L.
Will his son fall in creamy layer or non creamy layer.
As it is no where mentioned that whether salary needs to be counted in income or not
I belongs to general category. Can i apply for non creamy layer certificate with 62000/ annual income?
Thanks a lot, you serve the society well by providing in depth knowledge to many OBC.
Many blessings to you from us!!!
dear sir
i want to knw that while considering income for obc ncl income of my parents only will consider or income of mine also consider as I am just selected in psu as class one officer , and my fater is retired from police department. please guide can I apply and eligible for OBC Ncl as next year I am going to give UPSC attempt.
Hi I am Piya,
My father was class 3 officer at time of joining and retired as class 1 officer. I used to get non creamy certificate under class 3 criteria. But after retirement in 2020-21 he started private business with income approx 7.5 lakh per annum.
He is receiving pension amount 7 lakh per annum.
1. Will this pension considered as “source other than income”. It makes income from other sources approximately 14 lakh.
Or pension will be considered as salary and will be calculated seperately than “income other sources (business here in my case)”?
2.if above logic held true, Our income “from other sources” is more than 14 lakh for 2020-21 only. In 2018-19 and 2019-20 it was according to father’s government service status criteria. And ” income from other sources” is zero for two years. Am I eligible to get non creamy layer certificate? ( As our income was within limit for 2 years and it’s more than 8 lakh for 1 year only. So it’s not more than 8 lakh for theree consecutive years)
Urgent help needed
Sir, revenue authorities are not giving non creamy layer certificate saying that your father’s annual income is more than 8 lakhs( private job).
I have asked many officers about this issue, but they are also unaware regarding this.
Can you please give me contact of someone known to you whose parents are in private sector with income more than 8 lakh…and still able to get NCL certificate.
Thank you.
Urgent help needed
Sir, revenue authorities are not giving non creamy layer certificate saying that your father’s annual income is more than 8 lakhs( private job).
I have asked many officers about this issue, but they are also unaware regarding this.
Can you please give me contact of someone known to you whose parents are in private sector with income more than 8 lakh…and still able to get NCL certificate.
Thank you.
Hi Ankur,
First of all, you have not mentioned the profession of your father. If he is in service (Govt./PSUs/Private sector), then his salary income will be ignored for determining your Creamy Layer status and income from other sources will only be taken into account. This income should not exceed ₹8 Lakhs consecutively for three years. Suppose you apply for a job in the year 2020, then “consecutive three years” means-
Financial Year 2016-17, 2017-18 & 2018-19. If income from other sources falls below ₹ 8 Lakhs in any one or two of these Years, then it makes you entitled for Non-Creamy Layer OBC certificate. Since, Creamy Layer status is liable to change, hence the validity of the certificate is normally treated as being one year. Therefore, it is advisable to obtain fresh certificate just before applying for a competitive exam. which is spread over a year.
Best of luck!
Hi sir, can you tell me that in which notification it is mentioned that salary is not included in income?
“It means that if income from other sources other than the salary and agriculture exceeds the income limit, then only the candidates shall be treated as Creamy Layer.” — i think there is some misconception here, as per the NCBC link you gave, salary is not considered for only for wards of Govt. /PSU or equivalent employees. For others, salary is considered but the catch is that if either income from salaries or income from other sources( not taking account of agricultural income ) exceeds 8 lpa then he/she is not eligible for OBC certificate.
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The information above is not correct. As per the NCBC link you gave, salary income is taken into account where parents are holding posts for which equivalence has not been established with govt posts. In such a case if either income from salary or income from sources except agriculture is >8 lpa then the children of such prsons will be in creamy layer.
Hi,
My father is in Railway working as Guard & I’m currently not working. Does this qualifies for OBC-NCL?
1st time I know this 2 type OBC caste ..I don’t know I am a creamy layer Candidate or non creamy ..but I applied upsc form 2019.
I get my OBC certificate from talsildar and the certificate is not the year 2018 ..
I confused that .. UPSC cancelled my form or not ..
Please reply me .
Sir, My Father’s annual income is 8.32 lakh(including GPF, Income Tax,DA,HRA etc.)& He is a Group C officer.Am i eligible for OBC (NCL) Certificate?
Hello Sir,
I am from Odisha and belong to the ‘Chasa’ cast which comes under the OBC category. Could you please let me know if I come under the OBC Non Creamy Layer category based on the following parameters. Let me know if I need to provide any further details.
1. My Father has joined Odisha Govt Services as a ‘Lecturer’ in Class-2.
2. His 1st promotion to ‘Senior Lecturer’ happened in the year 2002 at the age of 45, which is also a Class-2 service under Odisha Govt.
3. His 2nd promotion to ‘Reader’ post happened in 2012 at the age of 55, which is a Class-1 service under the Odisha Govt. He received salary more than 8 lakhs only after this promotion.
4. My Mother is a home-maker.
5. We dont hve any other source of income.
Sir,
I am an obc from punjab belonging to the lohar caste and my father was a bank clerk in bank of india. According to the notification issued by the gov india i should be coming under the non creamy layer, but the authorities at tehsil sri hargobindpur in district gurdaspur are adamant that the cumulative income of whole family should be less than Rs.600000/-. I tried reasoning with them but they outright rejected my claim and said that i belong to the creamy layer.
What option do i have to claim my right in this case?
Hi Navneet Singh,
Your problem relates to lack of awareness on the part of lower level bureaucracy. Even the N.C.B.C. have recognised this . Clearias has put all the relevant clarificatory circulars on this website.You can show these to the dealing officials.It would be better if you directly approach at least the S.D.M. of your Sub-division.If he is not convinced, then you must approach the D.C. of your district.
Since, your father has been/is in service as bank clerk, therefore his income from salaries is to be excluded from the purview of creamy-layer. Only household income from other sources,e.g. bank interest,house-rent received, income from trading in shares etc. is to be counted. And, this income from other sources should not exceed ₹8 lakh p.a. for consecutive 3 years. I assume that your mother is home-maker.
If you meet the above mentioned criteria, you should definitely get your Non-Creamy Layer OBC certificate.
Best of luck!
OBC ncl certificate will be issued in the name of candidate or candidates parents
Hi,
I recently got married and my husband falls under OBC category , Will i be eligible to avail the OBC certificate and the reservation/Age relaxation ?.
My husband is in central govt job but salary is less thna 8L/PA.
Hi Niya,
O.B.C.(Non-Creamy Layer) Certificate is issued in the name of applicant and not in the name of his parents.
Best of luck.
Sir, my father is a Grade B officer and my mother is a housewife. His annual income is more than 8LPA. Am I eligible to apply for OBC NCL?
Hi Sir,
My father works in a private sector.We do not own any land. My mother is a home maker. Kindly let me know if we are eligible for OBC non creamy layer? Do we need to consider my father’s income for the same? Our caste is in the OBC list.But not sure if we belong to creamy or non creamy layer.
I am a banker, joined PSU bank in junior management grade at the age of 23 in 1985. Now working as chief manager drawing gross salary of about Rs 1.10 Lakh per month. My wife is a housewife. Can either of us get non creamy layer certificate for the benefit of our daughter.
SIR MAIN EK HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER HON.MERI CATEGORY OBC HAI. MERI 2016-2017,2017-2018,
2018-2019, KI AVERAGE INCOME 8 LAKH SE KAM THI JIS SE MERI OBC (NON CREAMY LAYER) CERTIFICATE BAN GAI JO 2022 TAK VALID HAI. YEH CERTIFICATE MAIN NE NOVEMBER 2019 MAIN BANAYA AUR DECEMBER 2019 MAIN NEET KA FORM APNE LADKE KA BHARA JIS MAIN MAI NE OBC (NCL) BHARA. 2019 MAIN SEVEN PAY COMMISSION LAGU HONEY SE MERI PAYMENT MARCH 2020 MAIN 8 LAKH SE ZAYADA HOGAI. AB NOVEMBER 2020 MAIN MERE LADKE KA NEET ADMISSION KA FORM BHARNA HAI.US FORM MAIN MAIN CAST CATEGORY MAIN KIYA LIKHON? KIYA MUJHEY ADMISSION MAIN OBC CATEGORY KA FAIDA MILEY GA?PLEASE GUIDE ME SIR.
Sir
I am a private employee having more than 8 lakhs as salary , no other source of income , my children are eligible for OBC NCL
Sir my both parents working in govt with group c post and my family income cross 8 lakh and Tahasildar told I am come in creamy layer category and you are told income from salary not consider
Sir I have two doubts .
1. Will pension be considered as a income or salary.
2.if the candidate belongs to obc – creamy layer,they compete as general category only in matter of reservation or both in no of attempts and reservation?
Kindly reply me sir..thank you..
I have a OBV certificate for centre and i do come in non creamy layer. But is there an additional requirement of anything else to prove my non creamy layer caste apart from the certificate. Do i need a income certificate or something else of my father.
ClearIAS pls clarify
I belong to OBC. My father joined the service as Group D employee in a PSU, after promotion he got the status of Group C and now he is in Group B category after age of 40. His present net pay salary, after deductions, is more than 8 lakh. He has no other source of income other than salary. Am I eligible for OBC (NCL) ?
Plz reply.
Hello sir/mam
I belong to himachal pradesh..my caste is eligible for obc certificate..
My father and brother are in police services (class-3).. Collectively they earn more than 8 lakh..if only parent’s income has to take it is less than 8 lakhs..I went to patwari for the certificate..He refused to give me certificate saying that It doesn’t matter whether income is from salary or any other source.. everything counts..He also said that Gross family income is counted before giving certificate and not only parent’s income…do i belong to non creamy layer? if yes then what should i do next to get my certificate?please Help 🙏
My name is Dr.N.Mohammed Arshad.
My father was in the managerial cadre in a PSU and retired from service in march 2019..Subsequent to his retirement my parents income (other than salary/pension)has been less than 8 lakhs per year for the period 2019-2020 and 2020-2021..Am i eligible to apply under obc creamy layer for neet pg and other government exams??
May god bless you for giving this information for the benefit of society.
Hi,
I am UPSC 2021 aspirant and wanted to know my OBC NCL eligibility. If my parents income in 2017-18 was less than 8 LPA but for the other two years 2018-19 and 2019-20 is more than 8 LPA then will I be given OBC NCL certificate when I apply for UPSC 2021 exam in Feb 2021?
My doubt is if they will consider only 1 year out of last 3 years or all last 3 years ?
Thanks,
Hi,
My parents income in 2017-18 was less than 8 LPA but for the other 2 years 2018-19, 2019-20 is more than 8LPA.
Please let me know if I would be able to get a OBC NCL certificate when I apply in 2021 under OBC category.
Kindly clarify.
Thanks & Regards,
Subhadra Moharana.
Urgent
My father joined bank of India as a clerk on 13-10-1978(dob-13-04-1956).he was promoted to officer on 02-02-1987 and he again got promotion on 31-03-1995 and last promotion was on 01-04-2007 as scale-3 officer.he retired on 30-04-2016. Now at present he is getting pension Rs50900pm.we have no income from agricultural land and no member of my family is currently employed neither in government nor in private service.i am only child of my parents.My mother is a housewife.last three years ITR returns of my father does not exceed 8 lakhs per annum.our cast is in central list of obc.am I eligible for obc non creamy layer reservation
Myself a Gr-C govt employee drawing salary above 80k i.e. having annual income above 8 lakhs.
My daughter has got OBC NCL certificate earlier in 2008.
Kindly get me informed whether my daughter still have NCL certificate?
Hi Sir,
One of my friends’ father is a government employee and mother is housewife. My friend’s father has joined as a Group-C employee and promoted to Group-B before the age of 40. So, is my friend now eligible to claim non-creamy layer?
And, is salary of my friend’s father considered to calculate total income?
Please let me know about this.
Thanks and regards,
Chandrappa
Sir,
My parents are not alive and they were not occupied in government jobs when they were alive
I belong to obc caste and am I applicable for getting non-creamy layer certificate?
Sir,
Thanks for a clear explanation.
My son is going to attend JEE main exam in February 2021 and we belong to OBC.
My husband was working as Director in a private company with more than 25 lacs per annum salary. He retired from service on 30/09/2020.
Now his monthly income from pension from October 2020 is 5000 only.
You have mentioned as income from salary will not be included for calculation of creamy layer.
His income from other sources are less than 8 lacs only.
I would like to know whether my son is eligible for OBC NCL category for applying the JEE main exam.
Please clarify.
Thanks in advance.
I’m working in regional rural bank as scale 1 officer,,, do I categoriesd as creamy layer or non cremy layer
As per the central list of OBCs, my community is belongs to obc but my father has retired from army and has joined Indian railways (Group C post) using ex-serviceman quota after the age of 40. So after combining income from both of these source (pension +salary), my family income is more than Rs 800000 per anumm. So can i avail benefits of OBC non creamy layer? Someone please reply.
My Title is Pan in west Bengal , and my father’s income is less than 3 lakhs in three years . Can I get non creamy layer of OBC .
Sir my father is a lic agent and wealth manager . His income is above 800000 and we possess agriculture land also . kindly help me in knowing my cremy layer status
Sir namasthe myself and spouse both are working in central government employees present non gegite rank salaries above 8lac now we are eligible obc ncl or not please reply sir
Thanks for this news. My circle officer is not issue obc non cremy layer certificate for my son and daughter when I am a class 3 job primary teacher
Sir,
Obc certificate that we get from tehsil , in same format as tehsil issue (when we apply on e district) or do we need to have any additional changes ( what is performa or application form ).Simple tehsil certificate obc won’t do or anything additional ?
If we are going for 2022 then issue date ?
Kindly clarify,as I didn’t get it ?
Sir,
obc certi same as issued by tehsil ,will it do in same format as tehsil issue on e district or anything additional ?
I didnt get this application form or performa.
If one will appear in 2022 or23 or 24 then certi issue date should be ?
Kindly clarify I didn’t get it, sir.
After reading this informative article, I have the following query:
Obc certificate same as issued by tehsil, will it do in the same format as tehsil issue on e -district or anything additional?
I didn’t get this application form or performa.
If one will appear in 2022 or23 or 24 then certificate issue date should be?
Kindly clarify I didn’t get it, sir.
I am having a temporary OBC certificate of non creamy layer by tahsildar dated 2008, how should I get the permanent one now?
What does NIL mentioned in NCL-OBC list?
My father is a port employee in Visakhapatnam and he is a mazdoor there, a group D service. His annual salary is greater than 8 lakhs and we have no other source of income. Am I eligible for obc ncl status. The authorities here are denying it saying that annual salary is only taken into account.
Hello sir, my father is work in BCCL government & my father annual income is 10 lacks, bt my father grade is Group ‘E’ then I’m crimilayer or non-crimilayer
Hello sir, I am bc-d( turupukapu) caste of andhra pradesh i am going to write jee mains. My parents is below 1 lakh rupees per annunm. Am i eligible obc NCL and for its benifits, i which category i am belong to caste list? Is ther any chances of reservations for me??
Sir,
Sir i am native of karwar, karnataka and i do have the caste certificate of obc karnataka which is also listed in Central list as OBC Bhandari 180, I was born in karnataka but boughtup in pune. I’m residing in pune, Maharashtra for more than 15 years, I have completed my school from Nursurray to 10th and 12th from Maharashtra state. My father was a cop at a post of Head Constable in Maharashtra state, he passed away in 2014 from that on we are get pension which is 18000 per month nothing else which comes under State bank of india in pune, Maharashtra. We do have Ration card, Aadhar card, pan all documents of Maharashtra state. Recently In 2019 i bought a land in karnataka.
My caste is only valid in karnataka but it not valid in Maharashtra therefore I stand as open in Maharashtra but with domicile certificate of Maharashtra state.
I know it’s too complicated…
But please help me out with this…
Reason for Obc Ncl: For Mba Reservations under all india obc reservation.
Question:
1.Am I eligible for obc ncl as my father was head constable?
3. As our caste certificate is of karnataka state and I only have a land that too bought recently, no other documents….
Am I eligible?
2.As I have the caste certificate on karnataka but all other documents of Maharashtra state as well as domicile of Maharashtra state, where should I apply for the ncl.
Karnataka: Only obc which is listed under central Caste Certificate, birth place and a recently Bought land
Maharashtra: Domicile, Aadhar, Ration, Pan, 10+12 education, house, pension stuff, father was under Maharashtra state Police force, non obc caste valid in this state.
Help me out sir,
I know it’s too way long complicated but please
Mobile No: 8830011512 Abhay
I was recruited as Class I officer in central govt. in 1989,retired in Nov 2018. I’m pensioner now. Is my daughter eligible for OBC NCL now?
Hi, Mr. Alex Andrews George.
I am currently in the US on a H1B Job. I want to apply for a job that has reserved for OBC. I belong to a OBC and my parents are not officers of any kind. My father runs a grocery shop and our annual income may be around 8-10 Lacks (I can confirm this). Is is possible for me to obtain a OBC certificate for this employment. Pleas let me know. Thank you.
@Diwakar – Check your father’s ITR returns for the last 3 years. If annual income is less than Rs. 8L you are eligible for OBC NCL.
Sir,
Any of the learned members of this forum clear the income criteria.
One way the interpretation is that Salary and agriculture income is not counted and not be within the 8 lakhs income ceiling for NCL.If a group C or promoter Group A,B officers aged 50 yeras and getting above 8 lakhs s gross salary incl Basic Salary,+ HRA,DA,TA,is his Son get NCL.
Which part of the salary be counted as income? Is it Basic salary only or all emoluments together be taken go calc Annual Income.
Please gI’ve clarification on this by quoting the rule position to get the NCL from Authorities.Your reply /advice will
be helpful to many OBC s to get the NCL Certificates by showing the GOI orders to the Thahsildar.
Regards
M V Rao
Sir, I belong to muslim community, my parents both employed in Kerala state govt as gazetted officers. (both in gazetted rank in entry cadre). Am I elegible for non creamy layer reservation?
What about property criteria my parents having land and building in urban area
My father income is 100000/- but I’m working in psb and my gross salary is approx 12 lakh per annum. Now I will get the benefit of OBC non creamy layer or treated as creamy layer.
Kindly suggest.
I am a NRI from 1997 and my daughter appearing for UPSC for the last 3 years. As per the above information I may be came under Non Creamy layer category. If you give me suggestion it will help her lot
Chinnusami
I have major problem regard to obc is that I have delhi state obc certificate of NCL is it permissible for upsc examination or I should have central obc certificate N second problem is that there is difference in father’s name in my 10th marksheet and in my state obc certificate too . Means both document have difference in my father’s name . So now what I do ?
Sir, I need some clarification regarding nc-obc certificate. My father is a pensioner now and last time ,he has filed ITR Is for the year 2017-18 as an active employer, and that was also within the limit .so, I whether I have to mention that while issuing nc obc certificate from the authorities concerned for the year 2020_21. And please suggest whether I need to issue income certificate of my father for issuing caste certificate. As this year we have very less time for issuing caste certificate,so guide me regarding this.Thanking you,sir
Sir, I am from OBC and also hope I satisfy the criteria for non creamy layer. But my father was a NRI and now he has RETIRED. So will my Non creamy layer certificate be rejected as my father was an NRI. Also I wanted to know that whether assets like land, flat etc will also be included under that 8 lakhs, even if there is no income from it. Thanking you.
Hi Sir
I belong to tamil nadu .
My father is a farmer with irrigated land of 1.8 acres and unirrigated land of 12 .3 acres .
And the state statuory limit on land is 15 acres . And my father has no other source of income .
Do I get OBC reservation .
Hi,
I understand from the above report that if your parents are Group-A employees, you fall in Creamy Layer class. But my question is, if I am a Group-A officer and my parents are farmers then am I eligible for a NCL certificate for my higher studies??
Assistant needed:
After clearing Mains, while uploading ITR, for OBC (NCL) candidates, the income bracket of 8 lakh should be met in any one of the years or all three years?
Sir/Maam, does the income bracket of 8L should be maintained for all three years or just one of the years? For CSE interview
Hi Sir/Madam,
I belong to Maharashtra .
My father is a Fisher-Man and i have Special Backward Class (SBC) Certificate and my father income is less than 8 Lakh, but upsc is talking about only OBC and i have SBC Certificate, upsc consider OBC is equal to SBC, please help me.
At the time of filling application form I uploaded state OBC certificate (non creamy layer). I’m selected for the job but now I came to know that I’m not listed in central reservation list so in DV they will ask for central OBC certificate…what should I do now…Please Reply
my friend belongs to andhrapradesh,bc community and got an obc certificate for his studies and jobs.
he was selected in rrb ,chennai and posted in chennai railways from 1997 onwards. he and his family were settled in chennai itself from 1997.
his caste is not in the list of tamilanadu state.so they are not given him a bc certificate and obc certificate.
how he can apply for obc certificate for his son’s mbbs admissions from tn govt or from ap govt.
as a central govt employee,can he get an obc cetificate from andhra, by residing in chennai ?
or getting of a bc certificate from andhra authorities,can he apply at tn govt authorities?
all defence personnel working in different states,by time to time,howdid they get their bc/obc certifictes for their wards?
please try to clarify with any evidence letters/orders
Respected Sir,
I have a query regarding the OBC certificate procurement, Sir I reside in Karnataka state , my caste is Vysya and in Karnataka state OBC list “Vysya” caste is also mentioned as OBC.
Sir , no where in my school certificate my sub caste as “Vysya “ is mentioned by my parents, it’s just mentioned as Hindu and the same thing continued for all my academic period.
I got employed in Indian Railways , on Compassionate grounds on my Father’s demise, my age then was 34 years, I was chosen for a group “C” Clerical job with annual gross salary around Three Lacks per year.
Now I am 45 as a group “C” Clerical employee still with annual gross salary at around Six lacks per year. ( as the salary goes on increasing on yearly basis accordingly).
Now I came to know that I am “OBC”, I have applied for the same (online) with all my records as mentioned above , but my sub caste is not mentioned in my school records or elsewhere. Just it is mentioned as Hindu only.
And none of my parents have the sub caste mentioned in their records.
I have a cousin brother in Andhra Pradesh
Who has a caste certificate mentioning “Vysya” as his caste. As both of us have the same surnames.
On this basis of Surnames being same, I have applied for a caste certificate in my state, with my cousins certificate as proof and also submitted the same.
Kindly send me some suggestions to my “email I’d “ what to do next if the application is rejected ( approach a lawyer etc ) and if I come under
Non Creamy Layer or not.
Regards
G Nageshwar Rao
I have obc ncl certificate issued 1 year and 3 months back , but now my fathers business income is over 8 lakh, am i still eligible for reservation
My parents’ annual income (excluding salary) is less than 8lakh per annum. I am trying to apply for OBC NCL Certificate online in my K’taka state govt portal. It needs me to type the “Total Annual Income (All Sources)” in the box provided. What should I type there? Annual income including salary or Annual income excluding salary?
Please reply at your earliest convenience. Thank you.
Hello sir
U have already elaborated the things very clearly.thank u for that.but sir plz help me out in my confusions regarding non creamy layer.my mother is right now working as a group b officer and and my father retired on 2 years before as a group b officer.so I m not sure whether I come under creamy layer or non creamy.and if I fall under creamy layer of obc does benefits of age limit given regarding civil service of upsc
With regards
Hello Clear IAS,
It was a nice article and pretty much very clear and it also mentions about the doubts i had but still some people say my scenario is different that’s why this question.
My father’s total income is less than 8 lakhs. But I work overseas and have foreign income obviously > 10 lakhs. And i am married too. Some says, Since i am married my income will be calculated and not just my father’s. Also my brother has income. Some mentions family income include everyone in the family including my brother. Am i eligible for NCL OBC certificate.
Sir if any students belong to obc ncl category but he don’t have documents than he can apply in general category or not please Sir answer .
My father is working as formane( non executive post) in ecl. But the bdo and sdo level authorities are denying to give me obc non creamy layer certificate as they calculate my father’s salary in income certificate which is more than 8 lakhs,where should i go to get help? I have recently clear a bank job and to get the job i have to show the obc ncl certificate of central govt. Format to bank( i have obc ncl certificate of west Bengal govt. Issued in 2017).plz help me…i am from west bengal , andal block.
I belong to category 1. My income is lesser than specified. But govt officials say, category 1 has no NCL certificate and that Income and Caste Certificate will be separately issued. Could you throw some light on this matter?
What means parents annual income ? Is it income after all deduction (80c, 80D, HRA, LTA) or total gross income including all deduction as per IT return form? What if total gross income is above 8 lakhs but with deduction it is below 8 lakhs, then can we apply for non cream layer?
We both working as private doctors with annual income more than 8lakhs shall we eligible for non creamilayer certificate so as to apply for the medical entrance urgent
Sir, My parents both are directly recruited group B govt servants. But my father died. Am i eligible to OBC reservation?
Sir,
I am from Tamil Nadu. My community is under Backward in Tamil Nadu. Now i need to get the OBC certificate for my daughter. How many days it will be taking for getting the OBC Certificate in Tamil Nadu.
What is difference between state level OBC(NCL) and central level OBC(NCL). I am a neet aspirant n people are saying , candidates who are in state level OBC(NCL) but not in central level list of OBC (NCL) will not get reservation,and should apply for general category
Can u please tell soon
Sir
I am central government employees in IAF as civilian group-c post and crossed annual income limit 8 lakh after 53 years my age. I am eligible for OBC non-creamy certificate?. please give necessary information on this. thanks.
Only parents income is considered or personal (candidate’s) income is also considered for OBC NCL eligibility?
My (candidate) personal income from (other) sources is more than 8LPA. But my father’s other income is less than 8LPA. Will I be eligible for OBC NCL? Kindly guide
I am Ram. I am working in a private company. My salary is more than 8.0 lakh per annum and no other income in my home. My wife is house wife. Will I fall in OBC NCL category.
sir actually i would want to know that..i had applied online two years back but due to lack of some of the documents the application was not submitted..now i have submitted for obc certificate …can i still get my certificate because i have my neet exams this year..
sir i am a group B govt servant, i have joined in group c post and promoted on group B NG exceeding annual income 8 lakhs.
I belong to OBC category . Can I apply for non creamy layer OBC certificate for my son to get reservation in NEET exam.
pls guide me.
Sir
I am working abroad(NRI) and under OBC category, shall my son is eligible for OBC no creamy layer certificate.
With best regards
Praseej
My father is group c state govt employee..and his salary is above 8 lakh criteria so can I avail the benefit of obc NCL in upsc exam
Sir may Father’s income is more than 8lacs but he is Group B Non-Gazetted employee in central government as per rule i am eligible for ncl-obc i asked in zilla about it they said that may dad need to submit office grade certificate along with income certificate, 3 years IRT and it’s signing depends upon SDM sir what they mean kya office grade certificate and will they sign NCL certificate ??
Dear Sir
I am a teacher in a govt. college, I OBC Category. Salary is more than 10 lac. I wish to purse a course and with to apply for the same. Can I avail My OBC category for applying the same or I can apply in general category online.
I am a private employee with salary more than 8.0 lakhs/annum. As I am a BVSc graduate, I am denied OBC NCL in Pondicherry stating that Veterinary doctor comes under Group A. If I am considered as a private employee they are considering my salary as income.. Is it right? Is there any website where there is proper classification of Group A and Groyp B officers available? Particularly Veterinary Assistant surgeon
Sir I got obc NCL certificate from Tamilnadu by online.
On 12 th December 2020. I verified that my caste belongs to central obc list .
Is it valid to apply exams for central government like upsc , NABARD.
Some exams definited prescribed format..
Im confused. Kindly reply me.
Sir I got OBC NCL certificate from Tamilnadu by online on 21 Dec 2020.
I applied for upsc 2021 by using this.
I verified my caste comes under central obc list.
.in notification upsc defined prescribed format.
In my certificate I got sign by thasildar. But in prescribed format designated authrity is district magistrate.
I am confused.
Can I use the same certificate. Or I want to get new one.
Pls kindly reply me
I
Hi sir,
My mother got recruited in delhi Police in 1989 as a constable and after her 31 years of service she has attained the post of sub inspector. Her current salary is 60k per month. My father joined indian army as sepoy and retired as Naik in 2003, after which he joined as driver in Tata motors earning 25-30k per month from then till now. So he has his pension as well which is around 24k per month.
I’m a resident of Delhi and residing in delhi since 1990. I belong to Jaat community, as I am residing before 1993 am I eligible for falling under the OBC category, and also i would like to know that if UPSC considers OBC of NCT Delhi non creamy layer in their eligible OBC candidates. It would be really helpful if I could borrow your evaluation.
If we have income more than 8 lakh ,,but have obc ncl certificate,,then do we fall in obc for neet exam or in general…..?
From which category will selection for mbbs in neet occur ?
Hi sir
My daughters have their obc certificate.. cat 1 but my husband’s and my income ..salary is above 8 lakhs
Do my daughters come under non creamy layer for selection criteria for entrance exams for professional colleges like neet or kcet or comedk
Hello,
I have an obc ncl certificate in the central format. My parents are central govt servants. Father has retired. I am preparing for various govt exams. Since recruitment comes from time to time, they stress on getting obc certificate for that year based on income of three previous financial years but as we know, the non creamy criteria for govt servants is NOT decided on the basis of salary, rather their cadre/group. So, how can I keep updating my OBC everytime for claiming reservations in jobs? Please clarify. I am very confused. Any advice would be highly appreciated.
Hello,
As you mention that parent income was only consider to obtain OBC certificate of non creamy, I am a married women and my all identity proof was changed to my husband’s surname.
Now my question is, my father name is Axxxx in his aadhar card, in my aadhar card W/o Bxxxx is mention,
in this case how could I get OBC non creamy layer certificate from my parent income??
Please give a advice to gain OBC non creamy layer CERTIFICATE.
In tspgecet 2021 I got 127rank, to provide income certificate what I need to do???
मैं रक्षा मंत्रालय के अधीन Group “B” राजपत्रित अधिकारी के रूप में अपनी सेवाएं दे रहा हूं।
मैं विगत 14 वर्षों से इसी पद (Rank) पर सेवारत हूं, मुझे 15 वर्षों से प्रौन्नति नहीं मिली है। मैं वर्तमान में 47 वर्ष का हूं।
मेरे वेतन का विवरण निम्नानुसार है
Basic pay 64200/-
Grade pay 4800/-
(Nov 2017 के बाद)
मैं झुंझुनूं (राजस्थान) से जाट जाति से हूं ।
क्या मेरी संतान को OBC (Non creamy layer) का लाभ एवं प्रमाण पत्र प्राप्त करने का अधिकार है?
कृपया मार्गदर्शन करें,
मैं आपके उपकार हेतु सदैव आभारी रहूंगा।
धन्यवाद आभार
If you direct recruitment in class B, in this case your child fall under the OBC-CL only otherwise under OBC-NCL.
please look into office memorandum No. 36033/1/2013-ESTT (Res.)
Sir, my father is in MSEDCL Maharashtra (in simple words Electricity Corporation) and our annual income is nearly 9,00,000. Can I get new NCL certificate as validity of my
current NCL certificate is March 2022.
According to the aforementioned rules, I am eligible for OBC NCL but is there any restriction on my parents land/property holdings.
My father joined as junior engineer in pondicherry 1977. At that time, it is GROUP C. He got promoted as GROUP A within 40 years of his age. OBC NC applicable for me ?
Sir can a creamy layer obc candidate apply as general candidate?
I’m OBC category 1 / and in non creamy Karnataka state, but my caste not listed in central list . While applying NEET what should I mention general quota or OBC non creamy layer ?
Sir, My age is 29 years & I’m a working professional. I’ve exhausted all 6 attempts (First 2, I had given without preparation for csat practice as I was writing CAT that time & suddenly got interest in GS papers while appearing for TISSNET). In the 3rd attempt(1st serious attempt), I couldn’t qualify prelims. In the 4th attempt (2nd serious attempt), I missed csat cutoff by 1 question. In 5th attempt, I cleared prelims but missed mains by 40 marks. This year I appeared in prelims, and result is awaited (But getting approx. 90 marks in paper 1, don’t know what would be the result). I want to ask that whether in next attempt i.e, in 7th attempt, I would have to claim the age relaxation (my age is 29).
Sir/mam my name is sowjanya..my parents belongs to obc noncreamy layer.. My husband belongs to creamy layer.. As of my knowledge I should get the obc non creamy layer certificate due my parents status.. But my application was rejected by MRO.. They telling as I am not living in my parents place the application was rejected..how a married girl can live in parents place.. She should move to husbands place.. Plz kindly give me a solution
I want to make non creamy layer certificate please help for making
Sir in my central OBC certificate there is napit community mentioned and in my state OBC certificate there is shil community mentioned . Now I want new central OBC but the officials say that in the old certificate napit should be shil as per as state OBC and they are not issuing the new certificate
Sir help me in this regard
sir
If both parents joined govt job as Group c and promoted as group b before 40 year. what will be our childs status creme layer or non creme layer
When I appointed in State Government (Raj.)Job I was under NCL-OBC and now may annual salary is above Rs. 8.00 lacs, then now Would I still consider as NCL-OBC?
What a great knowledge given by you on the subject. Thanks a lot sir
Sir, my father is in group c service with 600000/- rupee per annum income and another income from agriculture is 600000/- rupee too. Total income of my family is 1200000/- rupee per annum. Am i able for non creamy layer obc certificate?
I have a latest income certificate with 600000/- rupee income record of agriculture only. We did not mention salary income because group c income is not calculated. So is my income certificate valid for UPSC civil services examination? or I want a new certificate?
Please inform me with perfect information.
Thanks!
Sir, in case of single mother parent(not legally separated) ,is it possible to get OBC non creamy layer certificate on basis of income criterion of mother?Not getting any financial help from father.please guide.Further please provide latest order/circular of non creamy layer criterion.
Thanks a lot for such an informative article . Thanks a LOT.
Sir
I am working with Psb as a JMG scale 1 and my annual income yearly.
1. 408000
2. 562000
3. 850000
my parents are farmer and house wife and parent annual income less than 60000
Can my candidature consider under obc non creamy layer.
what is the cutoff of obc ncl in upsc prelims…? Why does the Union Public Service Commission not specify the cutoff for the non-creamy layer separately….?
Sir state obc ncl caste certificate Is valid in upsc orr some other formats are there ?
I have a NCL Certificate which is having 01/03/2021 as the issued date. Do i have to take new certificate for 2022 Prelims
Hello sir @ClearIas
I have a NCL Certificate dated 01/03/2021 . Do I have to take a new one for applying 2022 Prelims
Please clarify
Sir
I m a govt servant of c group. My income other than salary and agriculture is below 1lakh. Am I fall under OBC NCL
I am an ex serviceman join38ed Union Bank Of India as clerk in 2009 at the age of 38 and got promotion as junior management scale 1 officer in the year 2013 at the age of 42 yrs. my salary at the time of clerk was Rs. 2.5 Lac now after promotion my salary from 2013 to 2021 gradually increased from Rs3.6 lac to Rs 12.0. for the past 3 years salary from Rs 9.0 Lac to 12.0 Lac. it is only salary no other source of income excdept defense pension of Rs 2.0 Lac.
now can it be clarified that my son will get OBC NCL. as I am promoted after at the age of 42 ?
Sir my father’s income has been less than 8lpa for 2 years in last 3 years. And only in one year it went above 8lpa. Am i eligible for obc ncl?
Sir…i fall under NT-B criteria in Maharashtra state while my caste is mentioned in OBC list in central list…i have NT-B caste certificate with me…can i apply in UPSC exam with that certificate only …???? Please reply sir..??
go to eseva and ask for central obc cer
I am from Rajasthan
My father is state government 3rd grade teacher and their annual income is more than 8 lakh . I belong to MUSLIM [MEV] community which is recognized as OBC category in state & central list . now I am confused that am I fall under OBC non creamy layer category or not . please clear my confusion and suggest me that should I fill my UPSC CSE form with OBC non creamy layer or OBC creamy layer .
Sir my father is an farmer … can I have a ncl certificate … land holding is a criteria for ncl ??
Sir,
My father got retired in September 20202, his income was above 8lakhs, he got retired from agricultural based company in field manager post, now we are getting pension of 3170rs only, am I eligible to obc non creamy later, please tell sir
I am a central govt employee and my husband too. both are group B non gazzated. total family income nearly 12 lacs yearly. my parents are farmers and no other income. Can i get NCL OBC benefits in CSE upsc? kindly help.
Sir, what if the parents are self employed? Do their children fall within the non creamy layer?
Hi Clear IAS team,
My application for OBC NC status is being rejected as the Tehsildar considers that my father, a private employee holds equivalent posts vis-a-vis government class 1, class 2 servants. However, I’m not able to find any Govt order which gives private post – government post equivalence.
Can I put forward my case citing that my application should be evaluated based on the income / wealth test criteria of gross income excluding salary and agriculture income less than 8 lakh under which I’m eligible.
Thanks in advance!
Of course, in the case of private employment, you are eligible for OBC NCL if your family income is less than 8 lakhs.
Hi Clear IAS Team,
My OBC NC certificate request is rejected as the tehsildar considers that my father, a private salaried employee has equivalent post to Group 1/2 officers of GOI based. This is despite we are satisfying the Income Wealth test critirea of gross income less than 8 lakhs excluding salary or agri income.
Considering that no private post – govt post equivalence is released by GOI, can I push for eligibility based on the income / wealth test criteria only.
Sir…, UPSC application for prelims mentions “community certificate number ” so where can we find that number..?? ..on caste certificate or on OBC – NCL certificate??
Sir,
Father entered government service in ‘B’ Group after 40 age by promotion. Mother entered ‘B’ Group service within 40 age. Whether eligible to get OBC Non creamy layer certificate.
Sir iam from Tamil Nadu married to Kerala. I did not get noncreamy layer obc certificate from Kerala. The only reason they said my father and mother born from Tamil Nadu.But where do i get obc noncreamy layer certificate please reply sir 😌
If both parents of a non creamy layer candidate dies, then what will be non creamy layer status will be decided for subsequent year.
Sir, My parents are working i class 3 govt employees. They got personal insurance of 2 lakhs a year. Do I have to attach this insurance and the fixed deposit in the bank ?
Hello Sir,
I am being denied OBC non creamy layer certificate because My Income is more than 8 lakh, My father’s income is around 1 lakh per year. What should I do now?
My age is 32 years so I could not apply for UPSC Pre 2022.
Myself and my husband both were recruited as clerical staff in PSU General Insurance company and later both were promoted as scale 1 officers after the age of 40.
My query is whether we can claim NCL benefit for our daughter’s higher education, if yes whether our salaries will be considered for computing income criteria.
for student studying in gulf and whose parents are also working in gulf and what is the criteria for the NCL OBC of their children .whether they are eligible for OBC NCL reservation
Hi sir
One who selected for state govt job and that person father and sister working class c job and their income will consider for sindutva and which year they will consider income certificate year or notification year
Hi Clearias team,
Please clarify my doubt,
I am from Tamil Nadu. My community is under Backward in Tamil Nadu.
my husband’s salary is more than 10 lakh per year. i am a housewife.we dont have any land or properties. can we get obc ncl certificate for our daughter. it will be helpful if we get the reply soon as she is going to apply for jee or neet.Thanks in advance.
Please share a government document in which the details of obc non cremylayer is mention whose children is in catogary of obc nc and whose parents salary more then 8 lakh and they work as 3 grade teacher
Please help
Thanks in adavance!
Is the statement of the bank is considered as a prior document to represent the income?
What if my father’s annual income is 7.5 lacs and by the other multiple transactions statement of the bank passbook reach upto 8 lacs, will it be taken into the account ?
Whether rules for BC creamy layer certificate are same for state and central govt. ? Plz sir reply.
I belong to OBC-B category as per the Central List of OBC-s. Also I fall under Creamy Layer, so devoid of reservations. What should I call myself socially -OBC or General? Please clear my doubt.
I am an officer in defence forces. A short service one. And belongs to OBC category. My father is retired PBOR personnel below officer rank. I will be retiring after serving 10 years in defence.
My father is getting pension and doing job. Mother is homemaker.
Would I be getting OBC NCL certificate?
I am bihari Kurmi by cast living in jharkhand.
I have no land on my father’s name and migrated to jharkhand in 2000
How can i make my obc certificate in jharkhand (where they are mot making obc certificate of outsider)
And i have no property in bihar so claim)
My income is less than 4 lakh a year.
In that case how can i make my cast certificate ?
And from where or which state?
Due to this my elder son missed the opportunity to get admission in premiere iit college apart from ranked under Air 4650 in jee advance and he is studying in iit jammu.
Please guide and help me to make my OBC cast certificate
Dear Sir,
I would like to know my eligibility for OBC-NCL.
My both parents are employed in abroad. They have no income in India other than interest from NRE fixed deposit and FCNR deposit and they don’t have to give income tax as they are NRIs.
Kindly advise me
Sir, my father is a government school primary teacher and his salary is more than 8 lakh . Does I am eligible for obc NCL certificate
You are eligible
In neet examination , which is considered as obc ncl group ? Obc 1 or Obc 2
Sir,
My parents are working in UAE as private sector employees however I cover under backward class at state level. When coming under OBC will I be a creamy layer or non creamy layer as converting their UAE salary to Indian salary it will be above 8 Lacs. I m applying in general category as I felt income above 8l,is it correct or I should be in non creamy layer
Hi Sir
I’m Swapna born on 5th Sep 1989, I belong to Veerashaiva Lingayat caste OBC in Telangana(Born and brought up in Telangana, OBC NCL as parents income not more than 8lakhs since 3 years) and have OBC certificate. I see at the Center level this caste is considered as General category, so am I eligible for 2023 UPSC based on 32+3(age relaxation) or is it I will be considered under General category and have no attempts left as I already crossed 32.
TIA
Sir at 41 years of age my father got directly recruited as Group A officer. Do i fall under non creamy layer category? Please answer me.
I work as Associate Professor . I get salary of Class 1 , but I am not Government Gazzeted Officer Class 1. My income is above 25 lac per annum…In this case can I get NCL for my son?
Sir mujhe NCL cirtificate bnawana hai kya mai ise online bnwa skta ho kuch log keh ki ofline bnwao
Or sir ise jruri hai kya upsc ki format me bnwana
I have strong feel that this article is giving incorrect logic to determine the creamy layer status…
As per my knowledge, and circular No. 36012/22/93, it is nowhere mentioned that salary will be excluded.
Also the Deputy secretary GOI, Mr KG Verma has written clarification notification (No. 36/33/5/2004) to all Chief secretaries of all the states/UT, wherein it is clearly mentioned that, there are 3 type of income, salary, agriculture,other income.
Salary income and agriculture income should not be clubbed, which means just ignore agriculture income.
Suppose you have all these 3 types of income.
Suppose S is salary and O is other income. So there are 4 scenario.
1. S less than 8 lakh and O less than 8 lakh: You are in Non creamy layer.
2. S less than 8 lakh and O more than 8 lakh: You are in creamy layer.
3. S more than 8 lakh and O more than 8 lakh: You are in creamy layer.
4. S more than 8 lakh and O more than 8 lakh: You are in creamy layer.
Anyone has any doubt, please discuss or share…
Correction: Clarification notification (No. 36033/5/2004)
As per my knowledge, and circular No. 36012/22/93, it is nowhere mentioned that salary will be excluded from income.
For pvt. Ltd employees, category VI of schedule will apply which means wealth test to be done to determine the income.
Also the Deputy secretary GOI, Mr KG Verma has written clarification notification (No. 36033/5/2004) to all Chief secretaries of all the states/UT, wherein it is clearly mentioned that, there are 3 type of income, salary, agriculture,other income.
Salary income and agriculture income should not be clubbed, which means just ignore agriculture income.
Suppose you have all these 3 types of income. So final income criteria will be based on following..
Suppose A is agriculture income, S is salary and O is other income. So there are 4 scenario.
1. S less than 8 lakh and O less than 8 lakh: You are in Non creamy layer.
2. S less than 8 lakh and O more than 8 lakh: You are in creamy layer.
3. S more than 8 lakh and O more than 8 lakh: You are in creamy layer.
4. S more than 8 lakh and O more than 8 lakh: You are in creamy layer.
As per my knowledge, and circular No. 36012/22/93, it is nowhere mentioned that salary will be excluded.
Also the Deputy secretary GOI, Mr KG Verma has written clarification notification (No. 36033/5/2004) to all Chief secretaries of all the states/UT, wherein it is clearly mentioned that, there are 3 type of income, salary, agriculture,other income.
Salary income and agriculture income should not be clubbed, which means just ignore agriculture income.
Suppose you have all these 3 types of income.
Suppose S is salary and O is other income. So there are 4 scenario.
1. S less than 8 lakh and O less than 8 lakh: You are in Non creamy layer.
2. S less than 8 lakh and O more than 8 lakh: You are in creamy layer.
3. S more than 8 lakh and O more than 8 lakh: You are in creamy layer.
4. S more than 8 lakh and O more than 8 lakh: You are in creamy layer.
Anyone has any doubt, please discuss or share…
Hi,
For availing OBC non-creamy layer certificate I knew the last three financial years annual income is taken into consideration. For the last two financial year, my father’s annual income was less than 8 lakh but for the current Financial year, it is more than 8 lakh. Will I be able to apply for OBC non-creamy layer certificate?
Dear Sir,
My both parents joined govt service as class 2 officers, father at the age of 34 and mother at the age of 44. My application for no creamy layer certificate was rejected. Can you please tell which Govt order tells about joining age of 40 years after which I am eligible for NCL?
Dear sir, My father is Maharashtra Government class II employee but promoted. Annual income more than 8 lakh .My application for no creamy layer certificate was rejected.
Hello Team ClearIAS,
My son applied OBC-NCL certificate but it is rejected by the authority reason with ‘income cross the limit 8 Lakh’.
Myselft working in private company and my wife is working as a teacher (class C/III) in government of gujarat.
Both gross total income is nearly 20 Lakh, out of 20 Lakh, 1.8 Lakh is other
incomes (LTCG, STCG, Dividend, FD and saving back interest etc.)
Should my son under Non-Creamy layer?
As per offical memorendom, i notice that the salary and agriculture income should not be clubbed
when calculating income of parents for OBC-NCL status of the applicant.
Thanks & Regards
Vimal
Sir,
I belong to maratha community, can I avail nc-obc certificate?? My parents are not govt servants, they’ve very low income and no other income sources. My caste is considered as backward classes under state government
Sir,
I belong to maratha community, can I avail nc-obc certificate?? My parents are not govt servants, they’ve very low income and no other income sources. My caste is considered as backward classes under state government..
I entered to a central govt job at 41 age, by direct recruitment, as a faculty in an institution, at level-13 govt pay scale. It should be like Group-A job. Because, as mentioned if parents enter to Group-A job before age 40, not eligible to get OBC-NCL.
Are my kids eligible to get OBC-NCL certificate?, as I entered after 40 age, earlier I was in private sector.
I belong to OBC and working in private company and my salary will be approximately 9 lacks per annum then shall i eligible for OBC NCL certificate for my daughter
Hi,
I am being an NRI and my daughter studying here with me, can i apply for OBC NCL certificate for my daughter? We belongs to OBC category from tamilnadu.
Kindly advise.
Since the status and Income of parents are ONLY considered for determining creamy layer status,my question is can a young IPS officer who joins IPS cadre at young age of 22years belonging from OBC
category, whose parents are agricultural laborer decide to apply for UPSC exam to fulfill his/her dream of serving in IAS cadre can apply under OBC NON CREAMY LAYER category
Hi there, i have 2 queries:-
Question 1. I just wanted to ask one thing that my father joined a PSU at grade 3 post in 1985 and he is at office post now in that psu. Will i be eligible for obc ncl?
Question 2. And also in the given article it is mentioned by you that income from salaries and agricultural land will not be included and in some other para it is written that it will be included while determining the obc ncl status. Which one is true?
Respected Sir,
I am a married women,working as Assistant Prfessor in Government First GRade College, Karnataka,my earning is 12lakh and above, now i would like to apply for Gazetted Probationer post, shall I claim OBC? since i come under IIA.
my husband is farmer.
kindly guide me how to get OBC NCL certificate.
Hello Aishwarya, have you got any update on this.. if yes then please share.
MY DOB is 1965. I have joined Service on 1988 as Junior Engineer (Class-III). After that promoted to Assistant Engineer (Class-I) in Year 1997.
My wife DOB is 1965. Joined service in 1990 as senior teacher and promoted to Lecturer (Class-I) on 30.05.2015.
Kindly clarify whether my children are qualifying for OBC-NCL or Not?
In Karnataka one of the depressed Other Backward Communities is-Halakkivakkal-as per the Central List and comes under Category I of backward Classes of Karnataka.
As per Government of Karnataka Order dated 30.03.2002 , Comprehensive Creamy Layer Policy does not apply to SCs/STs and Category I of Backward Classes.
Now, because of the above order, is it necessary to candidates belonging to Category I in Karnataka to obtain NCL Certificate ?
Is there any Government Order to exclude certain OBCs from obtaining OBC NCL Certificate?
What is the criteria for NCL eligibility if the working parent has passed away. Will the income of the candidate be considered?
My wife and I both are working for private software
Companies. Both of our annual income crosses 8 lakhs. We do not have any other income other than salary income. In IT returns our Other souce of income field value is 0 (zero) rupees.
Could you provide your input on whether my children are eligible for claiming reservation under OBC NCL. Our caste is there in state and central OBC list.
I am a sponsord school.teacher in west bengal.wife is house wife. Before the age of 40 I was in group B service. And still in group B service. Though my salary is exceeds the 8 lakh bar. Can my son and daughter avail the OBC NCL in india for their betterment.